ExCon90 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:12 pm As it is there's not nearly as much connectivity between Regional Rail and the trolleys, busses, and subways as there should be, and creating two rival turfs (they would inevitably see each other as rivals) would make things worse instead of better. Individual passengers don't think of themselves as being in one camp or the other; they think of their transportation needs for a particular trip. Cutting loose from the archaic fare structure of the 1940's (the PRR and RDG no longer compete with PTC -- the Philadelphia one -- and Red Arrow and P&W) would help to make SEPTA the unified area-wide transportation system it was intended to be. Trying to distinguish between regional rail and the rest would tend to solidify the (poor) city-vs.-(rich) suburban mindset which already exists in today's political climate.Are they really even capable of being rivals? There is occasional overlaps in service, but most are servicing different clientele going different places. Trying to force an integration isn't helping either. SEPTA has been trying to force integration for 4 decades now. At a certain point we have to admit it isn't the right strategy. Key highlights it further.