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  • Pan Am Southern (webssite: https://panamsouthern.com ) is jointly-owned by CSX and Norfolk Southern, but operated by Genesee & Wyoming subsidiary Pittsburg & Shawmut dba Berkshire and Eastern,
Pan Am Southern (webssite: https://panamsouthern.com ) is jointly-owned by CSX and Norfolk Southern, but operated by Genesee & Wyoming subsidiary Pittsburg & Shawmut dba Berkshire and Eastern,

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 #1463158  by leviramsey
 
If they also got enough west of Selkirk to get their intermodal trains to Selkirk, quite possibly. Whether CSX is going to be willing to sell enough of the Water Level Route to NS to allow that is a question that's up for everyone to judge for themselves.
Last edited by MEC407 on Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:03 am, edited 1 time in total. Reason: unnecessary quoting
 #1463221  by CPF363
 
For this to happen, CSX would be giving up on their portion of Conrail east of Cleveland, e.g. the Water Level Route, to also include the River Line and the B&A. NS would have to sell the eastern end of the Nickel Plate, the entire Southern Tier Line and the D&H in exchange for the Water Level Route. Under such a scenario, NS would become the dominant rail carrier in the Northeast that may have difficulty getting STB approval in the end. Would depend on how much NS is willing to spend to get almost essentially what they have now.
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 #1463290  by Arlington
 
CSX has specifically denied that the B&A is for sale. PAS/NS can stick to whatever plans they had for intermodal duopoly with/vs CSX.
 #1469270  by GU1001
 
16R has 3 MBTA coaches on the rear today. One flat, 388, and two bilevels, 710 & 715.
Had 4 NS GEs with #4033, an AC44C6M 4th out.
Got lucky & was able to follow it from N Adams to Deerfield.
I was aware of the rebuild program for the bilevels, but the flat was a surprise - at least to me anyway.
 #1469309  by GP40MC1118
 
The flat - 388 - is coming back from Delaware Car in Wilmington, De. and not related to the K-Car Program. It was part of a
small group sent their for repairs and other issues. There is a K-Car (761) just released from there and a Rotems (1812 & 1819)

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 #1470513  by johnpbarlow
 
NECR Appeal to STB to re-consider terms of PAS' Conn River line trackage rights agreement that STB served in October 2017 has been denied!

Opening "Digest":
This decision denies the petition of New England Central Railroad, Inc. (NECR) to reconsider a Board decision served on October 31, 2017, which adopted modifications to a trackage rights order governing the operations of Pan Am Southern LLC over an NECR railroad line. This decision also denies as moot a motion to strike [filed by PAS].
https://www.stb.gov/decisions/readingro ... enDocument
 #1475704  by johnpbarlow
 
Apparently PAS experienced a main line derailment "near Mechanicville" on Thursday 6/7/18 that impacted 22K/23K schedules by 24 hours or so, according to NS.
http://www.nscorp.com/content/nscorp/en ... e--ny.html

Whatever happened, the service disruption has cleared as of Friday 6/8/18.
http://www.nscorp.com/content/nscorp/en ... eared.html

Anyone know any details?
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