New York State Roundhouses

[Kuyahoora Valley]

Looking at a map in Sapbush Run, it appears that there was a turntable in Boonville, which was the northern terminus for the Black River and Utica (then Utica and Black River in 1859) Between 1855 and 1867. The tracks started being extended north in 1867 and reached Clayton in 1873. The map shows a circle on a track leading to the enginehouse...would make sense that a turntable was located here. Definitely Historic.

[RussNelson]

Lehigh & Hudson River RR - Warwick - (TT only) 41.2518,-74.3732

I stand corrected on that one. There was a roundhouse. It was lost prior to any of the maps/photos on which I saw the turntable.

[nydepot]

Lehigh & Hudson River RR - Warwick - (TT only) 41.2518,-74.3732

I stand corrected on that one. There was a roundhouse. It was lost prior to any of the maps/photos on which I saw the turntable.

The caption for this said a "glimpse of the roundhouse which was consumed by fire in 1952."

http://www.gingerb.com/L&HR%20No.%2063- ... 201950.jpg

Also: http://lhr.railfan.net/images/warview11.jpg

Charles

[nydepot]

New - NYO&W Middletown TT only
41°26'35.67"N, 74°24'44.32"W

New - NYO&W Campbell Hall TT only
41°27'38.70"N, 74°15'28.86"W

New - NYO&W Cornwall on Hudson TT
41°26'59.20"N, 74° 0'53.21"W

New - L&HR Chester TT
41°21'43.47"N, 74°15'28.46"W

New - Erie Goshen TT
41°24'9.49"N, 74°19'33.69"W

Update - NYO&W Middletown RH TT
41°27'25.69"N, 74°24'34.23"W

New - NYC Montgomery TT (Wallkill Valley)
41°31'30.46"N, 74°14'4.25"W

New - Erie Newburgh RH TT
41°29'35.25"N, 74° 1'49.54"W

New - WS Newburgh TT EH (1 stall)
41°29'28.50"N, 74° 0'25.02"W

New - Erie Pine Bush TT
41°36'32.97"N, 74°17'47.82"W

[nydepot]

Update - NYC DeWitt
43° 4'17.58"N, 76° 1'53.15"W

Update - NYC Croton-on-Hudson RH TT (Croton)
41°12'38.43"N, 73°54'1.30"W

Correction - You need to switch NYC Corning #1 & 2 coords. #1 should have those coords and #2 should be blank or now.

Update - NYC Remsen
43°19'51.78"N, 75°11'8.69"W

Update - LIRR Oyster Bay TT
40°52'29.82"N, 73°31'42.91"W

Update - LIRR Morris Park RH TT
40°41'46.52"N, 73°49'23.92"W

Update - LIRR Greenport TT
41° 5'57.28"N, 72°21'50.18"W

Correction - D&H Port Henry should be removed as that is the LC&M RH already listed.

Update - D&H North Creek TT
43°42'10.11"N, 73°59'17.92"W

[traingeek8223]

There was never a tuntable or roundhouse in Tupper Lake. Only a wye and an engine house. Four tracks I think. If you know where to look you can see evidence of the engine house.

[Lehighton_Man]

Bing maps says otherwise...
http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=44.230 ... ke%2C%20NY
That certainly looks like a lead to a table.

[tree68]

Bing maps says otherwise...
http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=44.230 ... ke%2C%20NY
That certainly looks like a lead to a table.

I can't put my hands on Volume 1 of the current edition of Kudish's book(s). That particular area should be covered in Chapter 23, from what I can discern.

[Kuyahoora Valley]

Bing maps says otherwise...
http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=44.230 ... ke%2C%20NY
That certainly looks like a lead to a table.

Not sure Bing maps say anything...

If Kudish and Harter both indicate there was a 4 stall enginehouse, and none of Kudish's maps show a tutntable, then it may be best to assume that, since they wrote the primary references for this area, that they are reliable unless there is clear evidence otherwise. When the enginehouse burned in 1951, the local paper had said that it was a landmark for more than 50 years, implying it was built in the late 1890s and therefore was the original structure. Since there was a wye there was no need for a turntable.

[tree68]

According to Kudish, the four-stall engine house was within the wye at Tupper Lake Junction.

The linked Bing image appears to have been on the New York and Ottawa ("North Adirondack"), which crossed the Adirondack Division at said junction and ran down into Tupper Lake proper, but not much beyond. If you zoom out, Tupper Lake Junction will come into view in the upper right corner, just below the N in Franklin.

I'm tempted to say that that's a yard for an industry, but without my Volume 1, I can't say.

Harter mentions a roundhouse at Tupper Lake Junction (Pg. 217), but he may have been refering to the four-stall engine house.

[jr]

D&H Binghamton RH burned on October 7, 1974, and was declared a total loss.

JR

[erie2521]

Having just read through all 14 pages of this thread, my head is spinning. If any of the following are in there, my apologies.

Erie: Avon, NY. This was the Division point, location of Divisions shops etc. I remember the roundhouse and I assume they had a turntable.
DL&W: Groveland. Again, this was a Division point. I don't know that they had a RH & TT but it is a reasonable question to ask.
Dansville & Mt. Morris: Dansville. Picture is in Raubers book on the D&MM and the Lackawanna in Dansville - page 54a. The same picture is in Bill Gordon's book on the Erie, Rochester Division except almost all of the turntable has been cut off.
Merchants Dispatch:East Rochester. I know they had an engine house on the west end of their facility. I don't remember if it was a RH or not and if so whether or not they had a TT.
And finally, one from left field. My grandfather told me that the Erie had a turntable in Conesus at one time. I can't vouch for this but his information was usually pretty reliable. The TT would have been gone by the beginning of the 20th century because no maps show it. I do know that in the 1880's, the Erie ran a mixed-train turn from Avon to Conesus. In the 1930's and '40's, the night freight to Corning often required helpers which were turned in Wayland to return to Avon and probably did many years before. It is possible that in earlier days that they might have turned them in Conesus - pure conjecture - particularly since Conesus wasn't the top of the grade. According to my grandfather, the turntable was south of the depot on the west side of the track. Ted

[lvrr325]

Current Trains has a small aerial pic showing not one, but two NYC roundhouses with turntables, side by side, at Selkirk.

Also I asked some locals over the weekend and the NYO&W house in Oswego is gone, the foundation remains visible though.

[sd80mac]

Would this be any help to confirm the locations of roundhouses in Buffalo area from the past? Roundhouses and TTs are shown in this old map.

http://railsandtrails.com/Maps/Buffalo/ ... ap-100.jpg

[lvrr325]

Lehigh Valley - Elmira - 84.5' table only - just north of where Stowell and North Canal converge (maybe 100') - historic - as per a val map the date portion of is not clear. Closest cross street is south, Washington Ave., maybe 1/4 of a mile.