Siemens Venture cars in revenue service on Lincoln services

Mr. Pennsy, from my eight Brightline joyrides to date (didn't do one this year; "old hat") in both Classes, I cannot recall tray tables secured by magnets.

Pensyfan19 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 28, 2022 3:52 pm First lead in the sinkwater, now this! Do the Brightline Ventures have this problem (or any problems with the Ventures in general)? Any reasons as to why the Brightline Ventures have fewer problems than the Amtrak coaches overall?

I now wonder what the Brightline contract for the Venture cars says VS the Amtrak contract. I would not be surprised if the Brightline contract is very specific while Amtrak is a bit looser in terms of what is built.

Possibly this is the result of a "Golly, I've got a better idea" at some Amtrak meeting.

I can recall from my rides aboard OBB Rail Jets (Siemens), tray table latches can break, but guess what over there; they fix things!!

I have no plans to "go over" this summer for the Festival; COVID cases in Austria are presently 333/100K; USA presently 11/100K.

What are we talking about? Are people putting their laptop computers on the tables and the magnets are erasing the hard drives? Is this at every seat or just dining areas?

I don't think a magnet will erase a SSD... but yeah, there are magnet switches in the lids of Apple tablets and many laptops...

eolesen wrote: ↑Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:14 pm I don't think a magnet will erase a SSD... but yeah, there are magnet switches in the lids of Apple tablets and many laptops...

Moving electronics through a magnetic field will induce an electrical current, so if your laptop is open and gets moved in any way with a sufficiently powerful magnet, it's going to glitch and blue-screen.

It sounds like they put in niodinium magnets there... when they really should of used a plain-old latch.

Sounds like a bunch of career bureaucrats who don't ever travel designed a seat by committee...

If Brightline doesn't have this it's because they probably did usability testing and customer feedback before ordering...

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Hopefully they get the bugs out and apply "lessons learned" to the new Siemens ICTs slated for the NEC.

Actually consumer electronics are extremely unlikely to be harmed by a magnet. Possibly a very very strong magnet could affect a hard drive (not SSD), but that's about it.

Most likely someone had an ipad which detects the cover closed by sensing the small magnet in the cover. I'll bet it was an inadvertent 'go to sleep' but no damage.

Back on 303 as of this morning.

I was last by Lumber St. on BNSF March 8 for Mr. Lordsigma's and mine Lunch meetup. Of course, Ventures were sitting around, but they had been withdrawn from revenue service.

Now Mr. Mr. McGrath reports they have returned; great!

Now did any others show up over the past month so that 1) more can have a "siesta" or are they about to be placed in other Lincoln Service consists?

Enquiring mind "wondering".

On the 303 to St Louis this morning. Was very excited to see the new Venture cars, but I was bummed to discover business class is still an Amfleet (2+1 config). I should have paid closer attention before booking.

(The Ventures looked good as I walked past)

Edit: just past Joilet they announced that the auto-opening doors are not working (so everyone was instructed to “push”).

Edit edit: doors between the Siemens cars are just kept open now. The cars very VERY roomy as you walk through, the aisle is certainly wider than amfleets but seats look much narrower. Restrooms are well designed, mostly touchless, one per car. The new cars seem to ride noticeably more smoothly than my amfleet.

Off topic: it remains annoying (but largely trivial) that Amtrak can’t manage to have a consistent set of policies in place nationwide. Business class in midwest appears to mean you get ONE free drink per trip while BC in the South (on the Carolinian anyway) means all the tea / coffee / soft drinks you want.

Mr. Roberts, I presume you are addressing the doors between the vestibule and the "cabin". and not those to board or alight the train.

If the former, "minor minor". I've been on DB Euro City equipment where same has occurred.

Food-Service/Business Class cars, that was earlier reported here as a "work in progress".

Bob Roberts wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:31 amOff topic: it remains annoying (but largely trivial) that Amtrak can’t manage to have a consistent set of policies in place nationwide. Business class in midwest appears to mean you get ONE free drink per trip while BC (on the Carolinian anyway) means all the tea / coffee / soft drinks you want.

And on my one trip on Acela in Business, we had to pay for soft drinks...

The new Acela sets say "Acela Class" and "First Class"