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 #1620630  by Silverliner5
 
R36 Combine Coach wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:05 am To Silverliner 5:

I suggest you read this info from ATS (a major freight broker) regarding heavy hauling.

If you are serious in this scheme regarding SEPTA 9000, the costs vary based on several factors. But as mentioned,
the general ballpark baseline is freight weighing up to 100,000 lb is that $1 x number of axles x miles = price.

For a 58,000 lb 50 foot Kawasaki car, you're talking a seven axle load, and Philadelphia-SF is a tad around 3,000 miles (2,876 according to AAA). So $1.00 x 7 x 3000 is $21,000, the ballpark bare minimum. Of course you'll need to
know state laws for oversize loads for each state along the journey, whether or not state or local regulations
require escorts and factor in oversize fees for each state, plus tolls (along with understanding regulations
along toll roads such as PA and Ohio Turnpikes). Most of the ride from Philadelphia to Chicago (I-76 to 80)
will be on toll routes, and the 7-axle oversize load rate will not be cheap.

In addition to the bare minimum tariff rate, loading and unloading would also cost extra.

It requires specialized work to exchange trucks, especially swapping trucks onto a different car not originally
built with them. Electrical work requires compatibility so the car can run on a different system.

Recall when SF-Muni purchased the surplus SEPTA PCC fleet in the early 90s, there were refurbished
professionally by Morrison Knudsen (a locomotive rebuilder and builder/rebuilder of passenger cars).
Muni now has major overhaul done at Brookville.

So this is not weekend warrior work or a simple in your garage "Mickey Mouse job". You would need to
consider professionals in refurbishment.

I could suggest Electric City at Steamtown in Scranton, as they might have interest in 9000 with its historical
value. They are the the successor to BVTA (running the Penn's Landing trolley from 1982-95).
You know what If they acquire LRV 9000 and reguage it to standard then taking 9000 to california could be possible but after reading cost and everything about it, I feel like they can be able to help and pretty much save me money that way instead of me wasting $21K to the point I'm unable to return it back i'm glad everyone here was able to talk to me about this but yet this will happen very soon though and I hope to run it on the F Market Line in SF.
 #1620642  by typesix
 
Also need to look into insurance requirements.
 #1621189  by jbvb
 
You'll also need parts, particularly electronic boards and subassemblies, with accurate documentation. I've been told that Seashore's Boeing LRV only has "as delivered" documentation.