by JohnFromJersey
Pretty weird that NJSL will be landlocked between Woodmansie and D&D/Conrail. Where will they store engines and the like, much less railrcars? Do you think they'll ever try and pursue a Winslow connection?
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JohnFromJersey wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:41 pm Pretty weird that NJSL will be landlocked between Woodmansie and D&D/Conrail. Where will they store engines and the like, much less railrcars? Do you think they'll ever try and pursue a Winslow connection?NJSL has nothing to do with the grant to D&D. The Conrail Southern Secondary runs from Red Bank to Lakehurst. From Lakehurst to the sand plant in Woodmansie is owned by Clayton sand. NJSL is the designated operator (by Clayton) of that track. The track from Woodmansie to Winslow is owned by NJDOT and has no possible rail customers. Why would anyone want to re-connect? NJSL will apparently interchange with D&D at Lakehurst.
R&DB wrote: ↑Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:07 amYes, or Clayton will terminate the contract with NJSL and contract with D&D, whichever operator is most economic determined by Clayton's business analysis.JohnFromJersey wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:41 pm Pretty weird that NJSL will be landlocked between Woodmansie and D&D/Conrail. Where will they store engines and the like, much less railrcars? Do you think they'll ever try and pursue a Winslow connection?NJSL has nothing to do with the grant to D&D. The Conrail Southern Secondary runs from Red Bank to Lakehurst. From Lakehurst to the sand plant in Woodmansie is owned by Clayton sand. NJSL is the designated operator (by Clayton) of that track. The track from Woodmansie to Winslow is owned by NJDOT and has no possible rail customers. Why would anyone want to re-connect? NJSL will apparently interchange with D&D at Lakehurst.
Tanker1497 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:57 am "NJSL will apparently interchange with D&D at Lakehurst"If CSAO will not be the operator of the Southern anymore, will that mean their contract with 84 Lumber will probably be defunct as well, meaning we might see some activity on the TRIT again??
IMHO there is little reason to keep NJSL for Clayton. They will become nothing more than a middle man! The D&D hands down will surely be much cheaper than the NJSL's. I remember reading that Clayton just extended NJSL's for 10 months? This all won't be close to becoming complete for 2 years. Now if they start moving sand with CSAO still in control then yeas NJSL's would be the interchange at Lakehurst. CASO wants nothing to do with this area of NJ
That was quite apparent when they made a deal with 84 lumber to charge less for the other 84 lumber rail location and let them truck it to Toms River. Suburban propane just got the bad end of the stick they were told that CASO was no longer delivering one car customer bi weekly as an only customer.
Re: NJ announces 2021 rail construction grantsBest I can tell the RoW over the entire OOS section is 40 feet wide, 20 feet each side from centerline. (Google maps and zoom in till you see the lot lines)
#1569162 by Tanker1497
Tue Apr 20, 2021 8:21 am
CJPat wrote: ↑Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:54 am Are you referring to Builder's General along Rt 37 where the spur to the former Ciba Geigy crosses? They also had the facility in Little Silver along the Coastline that also lost rail service. I think both facilities receive their supplies via trucking in from their Freehold facility along the FIT.Yes, I am. It's been said multiple times that Conrail had a deal with Builder's General Freehold, where, in return for Conrail ending their service on the TRIT, they would pay for the trucking costs from Freehold-Toms River.
pdtrains wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:13 pm Depends on what it costs to truck the lumber to the place on the TRIT. If it ends up being cheaper for C&D to take the RR cars to a rehabbed TRIT.. then i expect it will happen....If "There would have to be more than 1 consignee on the line.." means what I think it means, this could potentially be where CMSL comes into play.
I expect...
The state will have to pay for the TRIT rehab
There would have to be more than 1 consignee on the line..