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  • Pan Am Southern (webssite: https://panamsouthern.com ) is jointly-owned by CSX and Norfolk Southern, but operated by Genesee & Wyoming subsidiary Pittsburg & Shawmut dba Berkshire and Eastern,
Pan Am Southern (webssite: https://panamsouthern.com ) is jointly-owned by CSX and Norfolk Southern, but operated by Genesee & Wyoming subsidiary Pittsburg & Shawmut dba Berkshire and Eastern,

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 #1372841  by F-line to Dudley via Park
 
BostonUrbEx wrote:The 352 ran on the first EDPL that ran with the PW 2010, but in the trailing position. So whatever ban was issued still allowed it in the trailing position.
Only the lead loco is taking the signal input, so any other units in the lash-up are OK. They don't interface at all with the signal system unless they're running lead.
 #1372881  by Backshophoss
 
Most like banned for crapping out on the road,any form of mech failure on freights drives Amtrak nuts,
do it enough times will get the unit banned as a leader.....
 #1372909  by newpylong
 
BostonUrbEx wrote:Supposedly the unit was not banned for the cab signal system.
Banned as a leader. If it dies as a trailer they continue with slower acceleration.
 #1372916  by F-line to Dudley via Park
 
So, what exactly is the endgame here in letting all their cab signal power atrophy to the point where they're so strapped for Springfield Line units they have to pay above-market lease rates to bum from P&W? Are the expecting NS to say "nuts to this!" and start bringing its own cabs-equipped Pony power to East Deerfield to run EDPL? Is this some sort of temper tantrum about ACSES PTC going live on the Springfield Line by year's end, and trying to extract money from someone for new signal equipment?
 #1372917  by J.D. Lang
 
It looks to me that PanAm always finds a way to foul up on something that has good future potential for them. I wonder if sometimes their marketing department wonders if their operations department works for the same RR. I just hope that someone comes to their senses and sees that for the first time in many years there is some growth on the Highland. The new propane distributor in Plymouth and the possibility of C&D coming off of the Naugatuck in the near future plus a racetrack from East Deerfield to Berlin would make one wonder why they do not put some company resources into decent cab signaled locomotives. Maybe it’s another way for them to say to NS come on buy our half out.

J.D. Lang
 #1376522  by Backshophoss
 
Looks like the turbo is about to buy it on that unit!
Might be a better idea to "borrow" a NS unit rigged for Cab Signals and ACSES real soon!

ALL that lube oil is going up the stack! No wonder there's no lube oil at Waterville. :wink:
Last edited by Backshophoss on Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
 #1377003  by newpylong
 
A rumor is out there that RR is looking to build a piggyback facility in Southington, CT on the Canal line for Poland Spring.
 #1377021  by BostonUrbEx
 
Seems an odd spot compared to say Waterbury Yard, unless they're counting on a third party and/or absolutely need warehousing on the spot.
 #1377040  by ATK
 
What days of the week is EDPL currently running? Anyone know?
 #1377095  by J.D. Lang
 
BostonUrbEx wrote:Seems an odd spot compared to say Waterbury Yard, unless they're counting on a third party and/or absolutely need warehousing on the spot.
newpylong wrote:A rumor is out there that RR is looking to build a piggyback facility in Southington, CT on the Canal line for Poland Spring.
Southington makes much more sense as it is easy access to I84 whereas it is not as easy to get on 84 from Waterbury yard plus parking container cars in WTBY. yard would invite the entrepreneurs of the area to peddle black market Poland Springs water throughout the area. :wink:
 #1377556  by F-line to Dudley via Park
 
Would this be on the active-but-unused portion south of the AmeriGas runaround? Unless they're going to re-lay the old Pratt & Whitney siding I can't think of any place that has the site access to offload on. The property simply isn't there on the Southington side of the town line. Plainville would be a whole lot better. Still some underused crud parcels around the yard, empty parcels on Farmington Valley Dr. flanked by the Robertson Airport runaround, and couple parcels south of Broad St. on S. Canal St. and Whiting St. that would be a lot easier to try.
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