jwhite07 wrote:I know that to get commuter rail trains as far as they did into Riverside as shown in my photo, some of the overhead wire in the yard had to be taken down because it would not clear the F40.I kind of rediscovered this topic, so I'll comment now. The catenary on Huntington Ave is 13'6". the panto graph looks like it is almost all the way up. I think the pantograph can extend to 15 feet max. If a F40PH is 15 feet 8 inches, it will defnitely touch the catenary.
I don't have exact numbers in front of me, but to the best of my memory catenary height throughout the Green Line ranges from roughly 13' in the subway up closer to 18' or so above the street on Huntington Avenue, but typically somewhere in the 15'-16' range everywhere else.
An F40 is 15' 8" tall, and a bilevel car is 15' 6" tall, so in most cases you're not going to clear Green Line catenary comfortably, if at all.
Also, there is no way that the catenary is 13 feet in the subway. If you looked up at the pantograph in the subway, it's close to being all teh way down beacause of the low ceiling height. I would estimate that it is 10-11 feet tall maximum.
Also, the Kawasaki cars are the same height if not a couple inches taller than a F40PH-2C (from what I can see).
Here's a couple pics. The perspective on the first one might exxagerate is a bit
http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo ... 6&key=MBTA
The second one is not as pronounced but it still does look like the k cars are taller if you look closely
http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo ... 3&key=MBTA
And in this pic, it appears that the k cars are the same height as the geep's radiator fans
http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo ... 5&key=MBTA