Utica Branch Discussion Thread

[JTBernier]

Here's a video I took showing flooding in South Utica; the NYS&W has a bridge over the Sauquoit approx 1/2 mile south of the bridge shown in the video. There's also an ex-NYO&W bridge about the same distance to the north, used to reach a customer in New Hartford. I'm sure those bridges will be closely inspected before a train is allowed to cross them.

Holy moly!

[ricky]

Today in evening sun their news on update about railroad crossings.

[milkman]

Today in evening sun their news on update about railroad crossings.

http://www.evesun.com/news/stories/2017 ... ed-tracks/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[NYS&W142Fan]

Can someone please provide the full story, not all of us have a subscription to the Paper.

[Rail Trails Fail]

Any update on the county finding business for this line?

[milkman]

Any update on the county finding business for this line?

I haven't heard anything and I keep checking the paper, but they are obviously getting the line ready, we see MOW vehicles going up and down the line a lot.

[ricky]

Any update on the county finding business for this line?

I haven't heard anything and I keep checking the paper, but they are obviously getting the line ready, we see MOW vehicles going up and down the line a lot.

what are mow vehicles for? Inspect tracks ?

[milkman]

Correct, to inspect and repair.

[ut-1]

Here are a few photos taken today:

1. Running up Paris Hill's 1.8% grade, Cassville.

2. Passing Lincoln-Davies Lumber Co, Paris Station.

3. At the crest of Paris Hill, Paris Station/Marshall.

[JTBernier]

Running light?

Here are a few photos taken today:

1. Running up Paris Hill's 1.8% grade, Cassville.

2. Passing Lincoln-Davies Lumber Co, Paris Station.

3. At the crest of Paris Hill, Paris Station/Marshall.

[ut-1]

JT Bernier asked, "Running light?"

Yes, they picked up 8 cars (7 covered hoppers & 1 tanker) in Sangerfield then returned to Utica.

[ricky]

Any news on fix these crossing gates before the winter gets here

[lvrr325]

I'm somewhat surprised they're not running a handful of cars down to Binghamton themselves, although with the engine facility gone there's no need to move power in and out anymore.

[JoeCollege]

I'm somewhat surprised they're not running a handful of cars down to Binghamton themselves, although with the engine facility gone there's no need to move power in and out anymore.

I'd think some customers in Utica would have demanded as much, maybe seeking competitive rates from NS connection rather than go CSX to Syracuse and down. And there was speculation that maybe CSX changes would eliminate Utica interchange. Neither seems to have happened, and NYSW has shown little interest from what I can tell in capturing any traffic south of Sangerfield- the old Baillie's traffic that was transloaded at Sherburne now goes container on trucks to Jersey or DeWitt from what I heard.

[johnpbarlow]

I'm somewhat surprised they're not running a handful of cars down to Binghamton themselves, although with the engine facility gone there's no need to move power in and out anymore.

I'd think some customers in Utica would have demanded as much, maybe seeking competitive rates from NS connection rather than go CSX to Syracuse and down. And there was speculation that maybe CSX changes would eliminate Utica interchange. Neither seems to have happened, and NYSW has shown little interest from what I can tell in capturing any traffic south of Sangerfield- the old Baillie's traffic that was transloaded at Sherburne now goes container on trucks to Jersey or DeWitt from what I heard.

Is the CSX-NYSW car exchange at Utica an interchange between the two RRs or does NYSW have haulage rights over CSX between Syracuse and Utica? Much earlier in this lengthy thread, someone said CSX-NYSW interchange was at Syracuse and prior to the 2006 embargo of the Utica line, CSX traffic for NYSW customers at Utica was routed Syracuse-Binghamton-Utica. So if Syracuse-Utica via CSX is a haulage agreement, NYSW's Utica customers could theoretically negotiate a Utica-Syracuse-Binghamton to/from NS shipping arrangement today without using the Utica branch.