• Utica Branch Discussion Thread

  • Discussion related to New York, Susquehanna & Western operations past and present. Also includes some discussion related to Deleware Otsego owned and operated shortlines. Official web site can be found here: NYSW.COM.
Discussion related to New York, Susquehanna & Western operations past and present. Also includes some discussion related to Deleware Otsego owned and operated shortlines. Official web site can be found here: NYSW.COM.

Moderators: GOLDEN-ARM, NJ Vike

  by ut-1
 
Utica Notes: Big Surprise! On Oct 18th, I observed Mohawk, Adirondack & Northern 2042 working the branch together with 3040! It's since been on a number of trains and may still be on the branch although I didn't see it when I drove past the yard yesterday. A bumping post has been installed on the Utica siding on which a juvenile released the brakes of a covered hopper back in July 2015--the hopper rolled all the way down to Union Station causing substantial damage This could mean the Susquehanna will once again be storing cars here. Track work is occurring at Loomis Rd approx 3 miles south of the Sangerfield feed mills. Unsure if this means part of the line south of Sangerfield will be reopened.

Here's a video showing 2042 working the branch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj_RKAK3ayI&t=6s

This video features glances of 3040 on Nov 2nd in Utica, Clayville, Cassville & Paris Station:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fJy7CPPtfA
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  by ut-1
 
Utica Notes: A new building is being erected in the Utica yard. It will shelter the inspection pit. Also, grading has occurred for a new access road off Water Street. Traffic levels remain constant. The industrials see action everyday M-F and runs to Sangerfield occur at least twice per week. New Hartford's Oneida Warehouse is by far the biggest Utica-area customer receiving as many as 5 boxcars per switch job.

This video includes a look at Nov 20th's Utica local with views in the yard, on Schuyler Street and along Utica's Arterial (NYS Routes 5, 8 & 12) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOjLRMtCNVE

Credit Drone Photo: Nick Viscosi
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  by ut-1
 
Utica Notes: The building featured in the last update has now been completed and it is housing the railroad's snowplow. The big news since my last post is that the first run up the branch since 2018 from Chenango Forks northward occurred on December 4th. A leased NS four-axle engine brought two empty hoppers 60 miles up to Sangerfield. The short train continued on its way to Utica on December 5th. The reason for this seemingly non-revenue move is unknown to me. Otherwise, operations remain unchanged with 2-3 runs to Sangerfield each week and daily activity on the Utica industrial lines, especially to Oneida Warehouse, New Hartford (formerly Mohawk Containers).

Here is a nighttime video from Schuyler Street made on Jan 18th featuring No. 3040 taking a twelve-car train back to the Utica yard:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmdo90XWkrM&t=3s
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  by ut-1
 
Utica Notes: Monday, January 29th, brought a big surprise here as MA&N 2453 (ALCo C425) made an appearance on the branch to take over for 3040 (probably out for inspection/repairs). No. 2453 began service as Erie-Lackawanna 2453 and saw much service on the Utica line for that fallen flag. 2453 made two trips to Sangerfield during the week, one solo and one teamed up with 3040. It was still in the Utica yard Friday morning while 3040 was working on the Utica industrials.

Here's a video on the sharp-looking ALCo heading down Schuyler Street the morning of January 29th:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBIF0bE339E
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  by Aledl
 
Hi all,
I am very interested in NYS&W operations. I have made a list of good places to catch trains and I have a general idea of the region, but I was wondering if anyone could help with train runnings….Do trains have some regularity? Is there a train schedule? I am particularly interested in the Syracuse - Binghamton line and the street running in Utica. Depending on what I may find, I could make my way up to NJ, so I could look for trains in Newfouland or across the Hansack River, for instance. I know NYS&W runs the SU-99 and S-100 and, apparently, they run daylight. But I am not sure how to plan mi visit. I mean, do trains run in a particular time range?

I am planning to railfan in NY and PA between March 20th and March 23rd. I may spend 4 days on this activity but it will depend on what I could arrange in this area and what I may find on my way from Chicago.

I would really appreciate any help on this.
Thank you very much in advance.

Best,
--
Alejandro
  by ut-1
 
Utica Notes: The annual "spring rush" of additional tonnage up and over Paris Hill to customers in Waterville and Sangerfield has been well underway for some time now. CSX leaser GP-38 No. 2722 has been on the branch for approximately two months now assisting "Utica workhorse" No. 3040. Business to New Hartford's Oneida Warehouse is also booming with daily switching at this important customer occurring M-F. Trips to Sangerfield have also been happening on almost a daily basis during the week. On at least a few occasions of late, the Susquehanna used two crews during a single day: one to handle switching duties in the Utica yard and on the industrials, the other to head down south to Sangerfield. Logically enough, the increased traffic has also resulted in many more cars in the Utica yard; I noticed a string of ten boxcars present there this AM in addition to probably 20+ covered hoppers. Weed spraying occurred south to Sangerfield (and presumably on the industrials as well) on May 2nd.

Here are a few videos since my last update:

"Clarence, How's the Clearance?" (May 17th, an interesting "meet" on Schuyler Street):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5zlYENXSuE&t=1s

"Don't Bug Me!" (April 30th, Schuyler St and an "encounter" with a VW Bug parked a tad close to the tracks in Clayville):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkKz9scfoXU&t=6s

"At The Junction...Richfield Junction!" (April 23rd, southbound & northbound views of UT-1 at "RJ"):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=traQezagz-0&t=4s

"Out On A Branch" (April 18th, & 19th northbound on Schuyler Street, southbound pacing on Schuyler, Holman City Road, Sauquoit & Summit Rd, Cassville)):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7BM5eld0BU&t=2s
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  by frank754
 
Since the northern Utica branch is kind of an isolated operation and little or no operation from Chenango Forks through Norwich, how is the equipment moved from the Syracuse branch to the Utica branch? Do they have trackage rights on CSX between Syracuse and Utica?
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