Surviving B&M equipment

Former LIRR Alcohol spray car W85 (Ex B&M American Flyer coach) at the Railroad Museum of Long Island, Riverhead, N.Y.
http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/mow/sa ... nkoma2.jpg

Lake State Railway 975, an RS3m, used to be B&M RS3 1517...

No one mentions RMNE?

B&M stuff:

Two SW1s (1109 and 1110, both 1939)
One Alco RS-3 (1508, blt 1954)
One GP9 (1732, blt 1957)
One steel caboose (472, blt 1959)
One wood caboose (104406, blt 1907)
Two milk cars (1910, 1920, both blt 1957)
One 40-ft PS1 boxcar (76079, blt 1957)
One 50-ft PS1 boxcar (77843, blt 1957)
Two 40-ft drop-bottom gons (W610 and 92788, both blt 1942)
Three 40-ft wood outside braced boxcars (71870, 72249, 72480, all blt 1930)
One 60-foot open platform wood passenger car/combine (was the "Movie Car" at Steamtown)

That's 16 B&M pieces at RMNE. Any place else have more?

Strasburg might beat them in Coach Count...

The steel caboose, #472, are you sure about that number?

The steel caboose, #472, are you sure about that number?

Yes I am; why do you doubt it?

Don't forget the refurbished Salisbury Beach Pullman coming to Boston 7/4 and hopefully making several round trips to Portland.
Anyone know if any other B&M coor sided passenger cars are still around?

Yes, the RMNE has a very impressive collection of both B&M AND MEC equipment...

H.F.Malone wrote:No one mentions RMNE?

B&M stuff:

Two SW1s (1109 and 1110, both 1939)
One Alco RS-3 (1508, blt 1954)
One GP9 (1732, blt 1957)
One steel caboose (472, blt 1959)
One wood caboose (104406, blt 1907)
Two milk cars (1910, 1920, both blt 1957)
One 40-ft PS1 boxcar (76079, blt 1957)
One 50-ft PS1 boxcar (77843, blt 1957)
Two 40-ft drop-bottom gons (W610 and 92788, both blt 1942)
Three 40-ft wood outside braced boxcars (71870, 72249, 72480, all blt 1930)
One 60-foot open platform wood passenger car/combine (was the "Movie Car" at Steamtown)

That's 16 B&M pieces at RMNE. Any place else have more?

H.F.Malone wrote:The steel caboose, #472, are you sure about that number?

Yes I am; why do you doubt it?

Is there a photo of the 472 or a link to one?

The NERAIL New England Railroad Photo Archive

http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?photo ... 20Railroad

The Naugatuck railroad handles an over dimension load
The Naugatuck railroad handles an over dimension transformer load for CL&P

Photographed by Scott Paribello, January 26, 2003.
Added to the photo archive by Scott Paribello, January 28, 2003.
Railroad: Naugatuck Railroad.

Shows B&M caboose 472 on the transformer move in Jan. 2003.

Nice photo Scott.
This brings to light an interesting situation. One author states that the 472 was sold to the Raymond NH historical society in 1990. The buggy on display there carries two numbers, 432 on the cupola ends, and 21 on its side. 472 was a copy of a Pennsy N5b class built in 1932 and originally numbered in the 104700 class. 432, if that number is correct, was built in 1921 as a wood sided steel underframe buggy numbered in the 104600 series. The number 21, however would make it a 1932 N5b and indeed it does look like an N5b today. (In the 1940's the N5b's were numbered C-11-C-34) In the 1950's, a large group of buggies was sold, rebuilt so extensively that they may have been given a new construction date, and leased back to the B&M. The result of this rebuilding can be seen in the image provided my Mr. Malone. Still later, many of them would lose windows and even cupola's when they were rebuilt as transfer caboose's. As for the 432,if that is its number, I haven't yet found its rebuild date. Thats the problem with this archaic data storage system, its called paper, and takes a while to browse through. The specific information is there, I just haven't located it yet. One would think that if it was rebuilt with the rest it would look like the 472, but today it looks more like an as built N5b.

Tucked away in Durham near the UNH "Grounds and Roads" facility is an ancient looking boxcar, nestled in next to the roadbed. I've noted it a couple times but I'm not entirely sure there are visible markings present. I believe there's also an additional boxcar tucked in behind the H/R and offices complex near the West Edge parking lot, although I'm not aware of any rails ever being present that far from the mainline through Durham.

472 and RMNE

It carried the number 472 as long as it was stationed in Plainville CT under Guilford/BM ownership.

I am inclined to believe that it is indeed the 472 at RMNE as the data that puts it at Raymond NH has a number of other obvious errors.

Windham, NH has caboose number C-16...