Sprinter ACS-64 Electric Loco: Siemens.

gokeefe wrote:Is the Vectron platform a new build from the wheels up or an incremental improvement on the Eurosprinter?

I understand that the power pack is different. But don;t know any details, and am hoping someone like Dutch may know more and share.

gokeefe wrote:Is the Vectron platform a new build from the wheels up or an incremental improvement on the Eurosprinter?

There is a wikipedia entry on the Vectron which provides some details on what it incorporates from the Eurosprinter models. Can't say how accurate it is. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vectron_(locomotive).

My info is the ACS-64 will be a Eurosprinter but in a Vectron type body , due to crash standards

Reminder; talk about cab cars here: http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopi ... &start=120

Thanks.

From a BizJournal article: http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/p ... rvice.html

The Amtrak Cities Sprinter

• Advanced safety systems will keep trains from rolling over and derailing during collisions.

• “Regenerative braking” stores in a battery some of the energy normally lost during stopping. That energy can be used later to power the electric motor.

• Speeds will be able to reach 125 mph — 15 mph faster than the current fleet.

• A new, advanced controls and diagnostics system will provide the operator with real-time information about the surrounding environment, such as drainage issues along the track.

• The engineer’s cabin, which houses the crew and the controls necessary for the locomotive’s operation, will be built with crumble zones and safety gates that leave the operator less exposed to injury during collision.

• The modular design makes it easier to exchange components quickly in case of failure, without taking the entire train out of service for repair.

I was under the impression that Toasters were capable of 125mph operation.

Jeff Smith wrote:From a BizJournal article: http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/p ... rvice.html

• Speeds will be able to reach 125 mph — 15 mph faster than the current fleet.

Should point out that is an obvious error. Someone in either the press relations department or the reporter assembling the story must have mixed up the 125 mph capability of the new Viewliner equipment order over the 110 mph Heritage equipment with the info for the ACS-64.

The EGE wrote:I was under the impression that Toasters were capable of 125mph operation.

The AEM-7s and HHP-8s run at 125 mph every day in NEC operations. Just one of those items that must have gotten garbled in communication.

"• “Regenerative braking” stores in a battery some of the energy normally lost during stopping. That energy can be used later to power the electric motor."
looks like its a hybrid too .

David Benton wrote:"• “Regenerative braking” stores in a battery some of the energy normally lost during stopping. That energy can be used later to power the electric motor."
looks like its a hybrid too .

More likely just a reporter who didn't know what they were talking about and mixed up normal electric locomotive regenerative braking with GE's hybrid locomotive.

Regenerative braking, back into the overhead line is able for every 3phase motor..even the very first high power motor, german class 120 from 1979 is able to do that...and there is no Siemens propulsion in..they start later to do such things for real railways

Its not going back in to a battery, that press release is full of errors and incorrect information. Someone confused the ACS-64 with the Toyota Prius.

..maybe because Siemens is Toyota on rails? *gggg

ok...but Siemens ist delivering long after schedule...see Belgium..they have to pay > 20mio € for ~2 y delay .... hope AMTRAK will have not even the half (delay)...or minimum the same re-pay

catch wrote:..maybe because Siemens is Toyota on rails? *gggg

ok...but Siemens ist delivering long after schedule...see Belgium..they have to pay > 20mio € for ~2 y delay .... hope AMTRAK will have not even the half (delay)...or minimum the same re-pay

All depends on the lines in the contract. IF they have some kind of penalty for late delivery then siemens will pay. If there is no penalties in the contract, then nothing will be paid.

YES....hope AMTRAK was intelligent enough for such clause...