PRR in armor yellow?

Today i saw something i have not seen before as far as i can remember: a Pennsy passenger car painted in Union Pacifics armor yellow paintscheme. It was just a Kato model, but im wondering if it has ever happened in real life.

If it has, does anyone have any pictures of it, or know where i can find some?

Also, seeing the paintscheme it wore, what trains could such a car have been used in?

PRR had MOW (Maintenance Of Way)cars in yellow..(called mow or MofW..both terms work well for searching)
some googling says before 1953 PRR MOW equipment was grey with black lettering,
after 1953, yellow with black lettering..
this is probably what the model you saw is supposed to represent..some prototype photos:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... x?id=61432

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=1424300

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=2131037

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... x?id=61429

Scot

No, no, it was a passenger car. It was in a four car set with a Wabash, a C&NW and a UP car, all in armor yellow with red titles.

I haven't been able to find any pictures of the set i mean, but i know the Wabash was a coach and that the C&NW was a Pullman sleeper. I can't say for sure what the UP and Pennsy cars were.

The tram man wrote:No, no, it was a passenger car.

Did you not open any of the links I posted?
If its not meant to be a MOW car, then its just the typical "lets paint it up in any paintscheme that will sell, doesn't matter if its prototypical or not"
scenario that 90% of model railroad models are painted in..nothing new.

Scot

scottychaos wrote:

The tram man wrote:No, no, it was a passenger car.

Did you not open any of the links I posted?
If its not meant to be a MOW car, then its just the typical "lets paint it up in any paintscheme that will sell, doesn't matter if its prototypical or not"
scenario that 90% of model railroad models are painted in..nothing new.

Scot

I did in fact. Maybe i should've said revenue car. It wasn't lettered as a MoW vehicle. So you're saying it's a fantasy model? That's a shame...

Ah ha! Google to the rescue!
perhaps not a fantasy scheme afterall:

The Pennsylvania Railroad operated a huge fleet of passenger cars, and during the 20th century, most were painted in their signature "Tuscan Red" paint. There were variations in this paint scheme, and some cars that were painted in strikingly "non-standard" paint schemes - would you believe yellow with red letters? - that one was for through train operation with the Union Pacific.

from: http://www.amazon.com/Pennsylvania-Rail ... 0961972904

Now, must..find..photo!

Scot

More Googling, says there were Six total PRR cars in run-through service with the UP,
painted in UP yellow with Pennsylvania markings:

http://utahrails.net/pass/pass-non-up.php#prr

Scot

scottychaos wrote:Ah ha! Google to the rescue!
perhaps not a fantasy scheme afterall:

The Pennsylvania Railroad operated a huge fleet of passenger cars, and during the 20th century, most were painted in their signature "Tuscan Red" paint. There were variations in this paint scheme, and some cars that were painted in strikingly "non-standard" paint schemes - would you believe yellow with red letters? - that one was for through train operation with the Union Pacific.

from: http://www.amazon.com/Pennsylvania-Rail ... 0961972904

Now, must..find..photo!

Scot

scottychaos wrote:More Googling, says there were Six total PRR cars in run-through service with the UP:

http://utahrails.net/pass/pass-non-up.php#prr

Scot

And it says 2 of them were sleepers, just what i suspect the model was!(I couldn't open the box if i didn't buy the set, so i couldn't see)

Drat, cant locate a prototype photo at the moment..perhaps someone can dig one up!
but considering there were only 6 cars in yellow, and the PRR had many thousands of passenger cars,
and it sounds like they were only in yellow + PRR markings for a short time (only a year or two in some cases)
photos are probably quite rare! but some are probably out there somewhere..

Cool to know they really existed though! a neat bit of PRR history I had never heard of before,
thanks TM!

Photo of the Walthers model:



Scot

scottychaos wrote:Drat, cant locate a prototype photo at the moment..perhaps someone can dig one up!
but considering there were only 6 cars in yellow, and the PRR had many thousands of passenger cars,
and it sounds like they were only in yellow + PRR markings for a short time (only a year or two in some cases)
photos are probably quite rare! but some are probably out there somewhere..

Oh well. I'll keep my fingers crossed though. I mean, if there are no pictures of it, how could Walthers have produced the model?

scottychaos wrote:Cool to know they really existed though! a neat bit of PRR history I had never heard of before,
thanks TM!

Nor had i. This was the first time i can remember seeing it, even in model form. The rest of them, Wabash and C&NW are nothing new.

scottychaos wrote:Photo of the Walthers model:



Scot

That's really quite nice.

Kato's N Scale set with catalog number 106-1301 is called "UP Connections" and includes the UP painted but PRR lettered Pullman "Tippecanoe Rapids". I have no information on how prototypical the car model is. The set is on eBay at this writing which is how I found it.

Someone less lazy than I might be able to check the "Pullman Project" Database online for more information on this car.

Well, son of a gun. However, that set is lacking the Wabash coach, but the PRR car is there. Are there any more "UP Connections" sets with PRR cars?

I'm not sure, actually. I dimly recall that there was only one set of "UP Connections" cars done by Kato but I could be completely off on that.

Not the same thing at all, but I have SEEN a passenger train operating on Pennsylvania Railroad track with Armour yellow cars: in the first year of so of Amtrak, the Broadway Limited (Chicago, Fort Wayne, Pittsburgh, Altoona, Philadelphia, New York: an entirely PRR route) typically operated with a number of ex-UP cars in its consist.

Allen Hazen wrote:Not the same thing at all, but I have SEEN a passenger train operating on Pennsylvania Railroad track with Armour yellow cars: in the first year of so of Amtrak, the Broadway Limited (Chicago, Fort Wayne, Pittsburgh, Altoona, Philadelphia, New York: an entirely PRR route) typically operated with a number of ex-UP cars in its consist.

Even though i prefer american railroads pre-1971/pre-Amtrak, that was a pretty interesting era. The Rainbow consists sure made for some interesting sights. UP cars on the NEC, Seabord cars on the west coast, Milwaukee cars in the south, etc.