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Discussion of General Electric locomotive technology. Current official information can be found here: www.getransportation.com.

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 #588105  by jgallaway81
 
I have to ask... "Hybrid Tugboats"???? Please tell how they intend to charge the batteries in a tugboat... I really don't ever recall a tugboat using dynamic propellers
 #588113  by v8interceptor
 
jgallaway81 wrote:I have to ask... "Hybrid Tugboats"???? Please tell how they intend to charge the batteries in a tugboat... I really don't ever recall a tugboat using dynamic propellers
Railpower industries was supposedly also working on a "Green goat" tug. My understanding is that in typical tugboat operations (like ship escort) power is appled in bursts to the props (or nowadays, Z-drives and the like) as needed. the propellors spend a lot of time freespinning. I guess the idea is that if an electric drive is used it would be possible to extract "regenerative" energy from the system...
 #589598  by GEVO
 
Allen, go to the below link from the same site and download the GE brochure. It has a better drawing complete with dimensions. As you will see, a large part of the extra length is from the turbo being on the output end of the engine as well as the object on the turbo intake which is probably a filter. Normally, some of that extra length would be over the pumps on the front which would shorten the overall size.

GE Marine Brochures

As for the tugboat, the idea is to charge the batteries with the diesel engine and run the props with electric motors powered by the batteries and or generator. Since a tugboat spends much of it's time at idle in port, that wasted energy would be captured in the batteries for later use.
 #589724  by Allen Hazen
 
Thanks, GEVO! (With a blown-up copy of the drawings and a ruler, Jgallaway may be able to estimate the dimensions of the rail version precisely enough to be able to tell whether... it's worth while inquiring further!)
 #589779  by jgallaway81
 
Allen, I'm not even gonna bother.... the engine is too long, too tall and too wide... I have a very small compartment to fill.

Thanks for the thought though... I guess I just keep looking.
 #595494  by Alcoman
 
jgallaway81 wrote:Allen, I'm not even gonna bother.... the engine is too long, too tall and too wide... I have a very small compartment to fill.

Thanks for the thought though... I guess I just keep looking.
How does this compare to a ALCO 6-251 ?
 #620501  by MEC407
 
Some very basic preliminary information has come forth about a new locomotive from GE which, as Allen Hazen predicted, will be called the ES23B. To learn more, visit the new ES23B thread: http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopi ... =8&t=58122
 #639741  by RickRackstop
 
jgallaway81 wrote:I have to ask... "Hybrid Tugboats"???? Please tell how they intend to charge the batteries in a tugboat... I really don't ever recall a tugboat using dynamic propellers
The Foss tug has the ability to charge the batteries through the shore power connection, doubtless at the expense of the grateful California taxpayers. Certainly save on fuel expense and reduce pollution or move off site anyway.

GE already makes all the components for diesel electric drives as used in the newest Washington State Ferries (EMD diesels though). Diesel electric drive is also used in OSV's (Offshore Supply Vessels) where they spend a lot of time maneuvering at low speed where using a low horsepower engine could save a lot of fuel running thrusters as well as both props. So there as a market out there that GE has something to sell in.