NYSW: Conrails missing link

Ok fine heres another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCl5pEi8mws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfM9NFbTBng

Csx can recruit former nysw crews
Yep they would share the track
They have crew issus because they outlaw in the middle of nowhere most of the route isnt in towns and is in mountains and forest
How is my age relevant?
The river is very not fast and is prone to floods and washouts
Sidings are stupid expansive to build 1-2 million per mile https://www.acwr.com/economic-developme ... g%20siding.

Toby,

I asked your age as you are fairly new here and seem to have your position set in stone. Instead of discussing other's responses, you post videos (that do not bolster your position) and continue to trumpet your opinion. You seem young to me or newly in the hobby. If I am wrong, I do apologize. I am just trying to understand your stance better and where it comes from.

What former NYS&W Crews can be recruited? As far as I know there are none that are sitting at home waiting for a call from another railroad employer. NYS&W is either short crews or fully crewed at this time.
https://nysw.com/careers.html

Who is the "they" in "They have crew issues"? CSX, NS? Almost every railroad has a shortage of crews at this time due to retirements, COVID furlough-ees that got employed elsewhere, and really bad crew treatment, aka the point system on BNSF, a new 12 point system on UP and others. In addition the work is in all weather conditions, the hours are terrible and not consistent. Younger folks don't want that type of job.

The Riverline had some washouts last year in the Fort Montgomery area due to a massive spot storm. All repaired within a week with track re-opened. I was actually at the washout spot yesterday. Guess what, they replaced the culverts with new culverts that could span under a third track. Track speeds were in the 40-50 mph range. That is not so on the NYS&W.

Lastly your link to the cost to build "new" track is probably correct but doesn't take into account the PTC system upgrades that would be needed along a Class 1 mainline. The NYS&W is able to skirt under that rule, other than where they run on NJT. If tonnages were higher on the Tier between Port Jervis and Binghamton and in NJ it could trigger the need to install PTC on the entire system. That won't be cheap.

Laying a second or third track where one once existed eliminates the costs related to grading and drainage but any savings are probably lost in the PTC expenses.

TrainTrackToby wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 3:31 pm Ok fine heres another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCl5pEi8mws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfM9NFbTBng

Csx can recruit former nysw crews
Yep they would share the track
They have crew issus because they outlaw in the middle of nowhere most of the route isnt in towns and is in mountains and forest

The river is very not fast and is prone to floods and washouts
Sidings are stupid expansive to build 1-2 million per mile https://www.acwr.com/economic-developme ... g%20siding.

In an attempt to bolster your argument, you post a NYSW train operating almost dead in the middle of the 30mph MAS portion, and a CSXT train that has nothing to do with the River Line... seriously?? That's what you're going with? Lol.....

What former NYSW crews? As pointed out above, CSXT like any other railroad, is struggling to crew its own trains, they don't have spare crews to go send to qualify on someone else's track for trains they aren't even running. Any "former NYSW" crews have likely found work elsewhere, and anyone hiring on with CSXT would have still to qualify on the line, which the RR already isn't doing given they have no useful reason to do so.

Why are NYSW crews outlawing on a bridge route that isn't even 250 miles long? Where they outlaw is irrelevant; it sounds like more of a speed issue, because CSXT crews cover that distance in half a shift Between Buffalo and Selkirk on a line that easily sees 40 trains a day including Amtrak.... They're certainly not having HoS issues running 10x the traffic.


And you want them to run over a railroad that can't run a couple of unopposed detours in one direction without screwing the pooch? That makes zero sense at all....

Not sure what point you're trying to make about sidings, given that the River Line has 9 of them over a distance of 130 or so miles, and all of them are over 2 miles long. The River is literally faster by timetable speed along the overall length of the line, lol.