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 #1604985  by Disney Guy
 
The top of the pantograph was facing the wrong way which would only occur if the pantograph top (shoe) snagged on something above.

It is not clear from the video whether the piece of material above had first fallen down to where pantograph snagged it and was then bent out of shape, or whether the pantograph jumped the wire first and rose up too high and pulled down the piece of material from its normal position up above The latter is less likely but could be the result of loosening of the wire in hot weather.
 #1605766  by Adams_Umass_Boston
 
Article about the report https://www.masslive.com/boston/2022/08 ... blems.html

"MBTA officials have six weeks to respond to the four safety directives, which include a series of corrective actions the agency must take at the risk of losing federal funding. They build upon four earlier directives issued in June that the MBTA has already started responding to, including by shutting down the entire Orange Line, a drastic step taken to conduct necessary repairs."
 #1624828  by type 7 3704
 
A door safety interlock circuit that can be defeated by a short to chassis ground (which is what it looks in the picture in the report) is an extremely poorly designed safety circuit, as chassis ground is everywhere in a metal railcar, and it's by far the most likely thing for any wiring to short to.

Normally, a safety interlock is designed so a "high" signal is the "everything ok" signal and the "low" state is the fault signal, so anything that de-energizes the circuit (short to ground, etc.) forces the interlock into the fault state, which the prevents movement and is therefore safe.
 #1624832  by Head-end View
 
Excellent point. I thought virtually all railroad equipment was designed to fail-safe into its most restrictive mode. At least that's the way signals are designed.
 #1624852  by CRail
 
Remember that the 1500/1600s were not designed with sensitive edges that popped doors back open. There's discussion on here from back when about the "THESE DOORS DO NOT RECYCLE" stickers later replaced with "THESE DOORS DO NOT REOPEN AUTOMATICALLY."

The sensitive edge in this case was an in-house retrofit and I feel it's relatively understandable if it had a design flaw.
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