Nope, the power is still making it to Rigby. POSE was through Lawrence around 11:20 this morning with 2 CSX GE's, and SEPO was into Dover, NH about an hour ago with 2 CSX GE's and a Pan Am unit.
Abe Froman wrote:SEPO and opposite counterpart POSE move over track owned by the T (Barbers-Ayer) with perpetual freight movement rights provided to Guilford and/or PanAm Southern (Barbers-Ayer and slightly beyond to The Willows); and Guilford (Willows-Portland). In the overwhelming majority of instances CSX furnishes the locomotives that are, I believe, operated by employees of Guilford or one of Guilford’s several corporate subsidiaries. Guilford/PanAm Operations controls the track from Worcester-Portland, train crews and dispatching. CSX controls everything else from Marketing the train to obtaining the necessary freight cars and bills shippers exclusively regardless of direction.A well written but not entirely accurate assessment. That isn't meant as offensive, as clearly you are looking to clarify this movement.
Is this train movement an example of Trackage Rights or Haulage Rights? Since only one answer can be correct and accurate a supplementary question results. Occasionally, we learn of or view a photo of a Guilford/PanAm locomotive (owned or leased) on CSX track working off “horsepower hours.” Since POSE/SEPO is, essentially, a CSX train operating over former B&M owned rails from Barbers-Portland and those rails are now owned by different corporate or state organizations-and CSX SEPO/POSE is a run through movement, i.e. it performs no switching or car cuts along the route, how is it that Guilford/PanAm would owe CSX “horsepower hours?”
Viewed differently and from the perspective of a different carrier (P&W) operating over much of the same track (those coal and limestone trains P&W operates from someplace in Rhode Island to Bow NH via Barbers-Ayer-Lowell-Bow or, alternatively, the P&W coal trains operated over PAS destined for the Mt. Tom generating plant and reverse runs with MTs)-Guilford/PanAm power is never reported as working off “horsepower hours” on the P&W.
The subject of trackage or haulage rights and the consequent assignment of locomotives is not a difference lacking a distinction with CSX and P&W since Guilford/PanAm appears chronically short of necessary numbers of locomotives capable of achieving and maintaining those ludicrous low speeds for hours on end.
MEC407 wrote:Video by Signal Hill Productions of SEPO through Old Orchard Beach at what appears to be timetable track speed:If that's not timetable speed it must be very close. I'm guessing right around 40 MPH.
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WN&P wrote:Hi all-Nothing new, the other day they had PO-2, a local out of Rigby change crew in Brunswick!
I've been lurking this forum for probably the last 5 years and just decided to make an account. I spent a few years in Nashua, going to Ayer a lot and recently spent 3 years living in Portland and now live in Dover and work at UNH so I'm able to keep pretty good tabs on District 2 trains. From what I remember from last summer SEPO used to get into Rigby in the evening hours. I've been noticing POSE going through Durham at about 7:30 - 8:00 am pretty regularly in the last few months. I know there is no set schedule, but it does appear that in to Rigby in the evening- turn around and out by the next morning makes sense with the time-limit on the CSX power. Is this generally the case? From the pattern I've noticed, it would make sense to me that POSE leaves Rigby after the Amtrak 680 goes through at around 5:30 am. Does anyone know if that is the case? I saw the POSE go through Durham at 7:30 this morning but then heard the crew tie down in Atkinson/Plaistow at around 10:30, which doesn't seem that far for one crew.
WN&P wrote:Hi all-Welcome Aboard! I did much the same myself before coming out of the shadows and consequently I have a lot of respect for the trouble you've taken to learn about things before directly engaging in discussion.
I've been lurking this forum for probably the last 5 years and just decided to make an account.