On Sunday, I watched a Pan AM train heading south though Bedford, NH pulling 60+ cars of military vehicles. Anybody know what that was?
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Military Vehicles on Pan AM train in NH
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Shouldn't be talking about military moves...just observe and keep on buffin. Military moves happen all over the country, take pictures and carry on
It's hardly a secret: http://concordmonitor.com/home/12549757 ... -exercises" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 wrote:Shouldn't be talking about military moves...just observe and keep on buffin. Military moves happen all over the country, take pictures and carry onIts not like its a secret...
CN9634 wrote:It's for a DODX move, see more details here: http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/1254 ... -exercises" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;I'm not sure what the official railroad.net policy is on DODX moves. I'm sure RT will step in if I step over the line. But I figure if its in the paper, its probably fair game to talk about here. I also don't see why its so important to be secretive around most DODX moves. This thing called free speech, 'sposed to be protected. And if Al Queda's best plan is to derail a train full of tanks and humvees in the Berkshires then they are seriously wasting resources, Pan Am is perfectly capable of doing that themselves.
deathtopumpkins wrote:It's hardly a secret: http://concordmonitor.com/home/12549757 ... -exercises" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Article is missing...
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frrc wrote:As Sgt Schultz on Hogan's Heroes would say " I see nothing, I know nothing!"deathtopumpkins wrote:It's hardly a secret: http://concordmonitor.com/home/12549757 ... -exercises" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Article is missing...
Another News Story on the Military Equipment move here:
http://concord-nh.patch.com/groups/arou ... in-concord" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://concord-nh.patch.com/groups/arou ... in-concord" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
MBTA F40PH-2C 1050 wrote:Shouldn't be talking about military moves...just observe and keep on buffin. Military moves happen all over the country, take pictures and carry onall overseas moves would be by ship... most vehicles here stateside have no armor at all, and would not be going anywhere. Anything needed in the middle east is already there. This is just simple training, happens to several brigades several times a year
Avatar: NHV 669 at the south end of the "Pompy" in White River Jct., VT on 4/29/1993. Photo by Richard Roberg.
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KSmitty wrote: But I figure if its in the paper, its probably fair game to talk about here.Ding ding ding, we have a winner!
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Pretty interesting. I spotted a long string of empty flats up in Canterbury last week end and could not figure out what they might be doing in that area...had a fantasy of a new intermodal terminal and increased traffic
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Train was in Worcester today @ 4:00pm, headed South. Lead unit was CSX....
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There's really nothing odd about such a move. Stuff is coming back from the middle east, etc. If it is in daylight, within view of the public, no guards, then no problem, as far as I am concerned.
I did, though, ask my brother in law, who just got back from a 3 week drill in VT, if he knew anything about that equipment. He did "The Shultz" as well...
I wonder how the military handled these types of moves during WWI/WWII. I mean, back then, we REALLY needed to "zip the lip". Would be an interesting thing to find out, logistics-safety wise...
I did, though, ask my brother in law, who just got back from a 3 week drill in VT, if he knew anything about that equipment. He did "The Shultz" as well...
I wonder how the military handled these types of moves during WWI/WWII. I mean, back then, we REALLY needed to "zip the lip". Would be an interesting thing to find out, logistics-safety wise...
It is still GUILFORD to me... http://www.newenglanddepot.net
There's a Defence contractor somewhere in the south that does the M-1 tank overhauls,or the move was to
Fort Knox for training(both wild guesses)
There's only 1 port I know of that handles roll-on/roll-off Miltary ship moves,thats near Beaumont Tx.
On an as needed basis,BNSF handles Military Equipment moves from Ft Kileen Tx to Barstow Ca
then by road to Fort Irwin,the National Training center.
Fort Knox for training(both wild guesses)
There's only 1 port I know of that handles roll-on/roll-off Miltary ship moves,thats near Beaumont Tx.
On an as needed basis,BNSF handles Military Equipment moves from Ft Kileen Tx to Barstow Ca
then by road to Fort Irwin,the National Training center.
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Backshophoss wrote:There's only 1 port I know of that handles roll-on/roll-off Miltary ship moves,thats near Beaumont Tx.yes. that is correct. All of our container shipments were thru Beaumont. BNSF did all of our moves, to/from Ft. Carson, and I was on hand several times for our load/unload responsibilities over my enlistment. My last training excercise while in was at NTC, and I believe all track vehicles were hauled by semi contractors. Ft. Irwin signs out trucks/humvees/necessary tracks for units that are training there.
On an as needed basis,BNSF handles Military Equipment moves from Ft Kileen Tx to Barstow Ca
then by road to Fort Irwin,the National Training center.
Avatar: NHV 669 at the south end of the "Pompy" in White River Jct., VT on 4/29/1993. Photo by Richard Roberg.
https://youtube.com/@NHVT_Productions
https://youtube.com/@NHVT_Productions
NellsChoo wrote:I did, though, ask my brother in law, who just got back from a 3 week drill in VT, if he knew anything about that equipment. He did "The Shultz" as well...Maybe he actually didn't know, because his unit wasn't involved with it? Is your b-i-l in the New Hampshire or Rhode Island National Guard?
Did anyone read the part in the article DickH linked to, about an ARNG unit from NH going to Michigan for training? Then too, although the newspaper apparently added some information to the article, it's still full of speculation about how maybe it's equipment for Iraq, yada yada.
It's the 3rd Battalion, 197th Field Artillery Regiment, going to the Camp Grayling Joint Maneuver Training Center to train with Guardsmen from three other states (RI, MI. and WV) and a battalion from the 10th Mountain Division at Ft, Drum, NY. No tanks. <http://minationalguard.com/michigan-gua ... s-grayling>