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 #805200  by lpetrich
 
What has happened to him? I remember him for his book Supertrains, written in the early to mid 1990's.

It seems that we in the US are much closer to developing a high-speed-rail network now then back then. Europeans and eastern Asians have also developed HSR systems rather impressively since then.

So one might expect him to be very publicly patting himself on the back about how he has been vindicated since then.
 #805235  by electricron
 
Joseph is still around. Here's some recent comments...
From http://cahsr.blogspot.com/2009/03/ap-fa ... enial.html

"In virtually no way does the Acela Express perform near overseas standards," says author Joseph Vranich, a former Amtrak public affairs spokesman and president of the High Speed Rail Association. In 2004 he wrote a highly critical book titled, "End of the Line: The Failure of Amtrak Reform and the Future of America's Passenger Trains."

He's equally unimpressed with the federal stimulus money.

"Here's what's going to happen: The (Obama) administration will issue these funds in dribs and drabs—to this project and that project—and the result will be an Amtrak train from Chicago to St. Louis that takes maybe 15 minutes off the travel time."

Trying to make American trains run faster will always go off the rails, Vranich says, as long as planners keep trying to recreate overseas systems. "We're not Europe. We're not Japan. We're looking at shorter travel times, through population densities that are much higher."
 #805321  by DutchRailnut
 
Joseph Vranich a Amtrak reject, with no real railroad experience other than criticizing his former Employer.
Lets not forget Mr Vranich was fired for a reason, and it was not for knowing to much.
 #805392  by kaitoku
 
What has happened to him?
A guy whose biggest claim to fame is a book written 19 years ago, which is a perennial inhabitant of the bookstore remainder racks. Now serves as a hack rail transportation writer for such organizations as the Reason Foundation. 'Nuff said.
 #806124  by lpetrich
 
I don't know why he got fired from Amtrak.

But in fairness to him, he may have gotten disillusioned by the lack of progress in the US toward high-speed rail since when he wrote his book Supertrains, back in 1991.

In the meantime, nations on the east and west ends of Eurasia have made impressive expansions of their HSR networks, expansions that they continue to make.

Back in 1991, France had only two lines, Paris - Lyon and Paris - Le Mans / Tours, and was working on Lyon - Valence, Paris - Lille / Chunnel / Brussels, and a bypass around Paris. Now, France has lines to Marseille and Strasbourg with more on the way, the Brussels line has been extended to Amsterdam, and the Chunnel line to London.

Back in 1991, Spain was working on its first line, Madrid - Seville, and now, Spain has Madrid - Barcelona, Madrid - Valladolid, Cordoba - Malaga, and is working on several other lines.

Back in 1991, Italy had completed its first line, Florence - Rome, and now, Italy has a Turin - MIlan - Bologna - Florence - Rome - Naples line and the ends of a Milan - Naples line, with construction here and there.

Etc.

Some of the points he makes may be worthwhile, like spreading construction money too thin, but I think that that's a good political move. Spreading the money around helps produce a broad constituency. If all the Federal HSR money was spent on (say) the Northeast and California, then politicians in most of the rest of the US will be annoyed that they don't get anything. So spending on HSR efforts in the northern Midwest and the Pacific Northwest and North Carolina and Florida helps get more politicians to support HSR.

But pointing out low US population densities is an anti-HSR talking point that I don't recall him ever addressing in Supertrains. That is correct about overall population densities, but several US regions have much higher population densities than the national average, and most reputable US HSR proposals have been for such regions. I don't recall seeing any proposals for a NYC-LA TGV-quality HSR line.
 #806193  by kaitoku
 
Like I said, the guy is a hack. He may not actually believe what he is writing/advocating, but being contrary and serving the interests of Cato, Reason etc. brings in the paychecks and the coverage in the fishwraps, and since the U.S. has no semblance of true HSR at this moment, the MSM looks upon most HSR advocates as idealists at best or "buffs" or "choo-choo train lovers" otherwise.
 #807844  by lpetrich
 
Here is all of Joseph Vranich's published books, according to Amazon.com:
  • 1991, Welcome to the great American airport revolt: Why we should junk the folly of a third Chicago airport and build a high-speed train system instead
  • 1991, 1993, Supertrains: Solutions to America's Transportation Gridlock
  • 1997, Derailed: What Went Wrong and What to Do About America's Passenger Trains
  • 2001, Help passenger rail by privatizing Amtrak (Policy analysis)
  • 2002, A plan to liquidate Amtrak (Policy analysis)
  • 2003 (with Marie Meade), Are We Allowed to Spam Them Back?: Featuring Computious - The Impish Sage of the Computer Age
  • 2004, End of the Line: The Failure of Amtrak Reform and the Future of America's Passenger Trains
  • 2005, Supertrains for the U.S. (World Trends and Forecasts): An article from: The Futurist
So he's written a lot of criticism of Amtrak.
 #807868  by DutchRailnut
 
well he got fired after all, and has hard feelings ;-)
 #808474  by lpetrich
 
I don't see how that affects the validity of his arguments. Why not look at them and see if they are any good?