Industrial Design

Fair use quote: "Abstract - The coupling and complexity of railway train / tunnel system are further aggravated by increasing train speed, which produces a series of aerodynamics problems, such as aerodynamic drag, slipstream, pressure wave and micro pressure wave. Aerodynamic effects of tunnels will result in a significant increase in train energy consumption, shorten life of railway train / tunnel system, and increase maintenance cost. This paper provides a review of aerodynamics of railway train / tunnel system. Challenges in railway train / tunnel system aerodynamics and their related factors are discussed firstly. Aerodynamic performance and flow field characteristics of trains in tunnels are presented. Relationship of aerodynamic effects and parameters of railway train / tunnel system, and the control methods for reducing aerodynamic effects in tunnels are explained. A traffic safety evaluation of the train in tunnels, such as vehicle body structure, passengers’ ear comfort, etc., is introduced and analysed. Finally, future outlooks and research topics are proposed." https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 3320300179

Since advertising seems to be part of this topic, presently Amtrak is airing ten second TV spots in the Chicago market. The tagline is "just an Amtrak away". About three seconds are clips of trains, the remaining seven "happy people".

In how many other markets they air, I know not.

Well, at present it's ten seconds of TV advertising no airline is presently matching.

One of the quickest and easiest things Amtrak can do is settle on one paint scheme. The Viewliners look good in Phase III. Even the semi-ugly P32/40/42 look good in Phase III:




Pick a theme and stick with it!

First we're whining about timetables, now it's locomotive design.

Meanwhile over in Europe where trains are more routine and common...



Are we really going to worry about insignificant minor details, much like a certain former President was more concerned about the paint job of a Boeing 747 that he would never fly on? Or focus more on things like reliability, service quality, frequency, and attracting ridership? The riders don't give a damn what the hell is on the front of the train, all they care about is that it works and runs on schedule. Provide a useful service; don't put lipstick on a pig...

I would disagree that the appearance of the train is immaterial. Is it the MOST important thing? No. But go onto any good NIMBY argument and you'll see people attacking "dirty, ugly trains" running through their neighborhoods attacking their children. Plus, politicians, the people that have to be convinced to shell out billions of dollars for the trains we want, like shiny things that look good in photo ops. Shallow? Maybe, but that's how the world works currently.

wigwagfan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:58 am First we're whining about timetables, now it's locomotive design.

Meanwhile over in Europe where trains are more routine and common...



Are we really going to worry about insignificant minor details, much like a certain former President was more concerned about the paint job of a Boeing 747 that he would never fly on? Or focus more on things like reliability, service quality, frequency, and attracting ridership? The riders don't give a damn what the hell is on the front of the train, all they care about is that it works and runs on schedule. Provide a useful service; don't put lipstick on a pig...

I like this look, it's like a skull on the front.
Very heavy metal