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  • How will CP strike affect MMA?

  • Discussion of present-day CM&Q operations, as well as discussion of predecessors Montreal, Maine & Atlantic Railway (MMA) and Bangor & Aroostook Railroad (BAR).
Discussion of present-day CM&Q operations, as well as discussion of predecessors Montreal, Maine & Atlantic Railway (MMA) and Bangor & Aroostook Railroad (BAR).

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 #1048645  by rootsblown
 
Heard that CP is on strike. So , how extensively is this going to affect MMA's freight movement ? MMA was supposed to start hauling the extra freight of crude oil first of june. What bad timing for MMA again.
 #1048764  by MEC407
 
Good question.

Rumor has it that there's going to be a big crude oil train coming to Pan Am and going all the way to Maine, where it'll be handed over to Maine Northern or EMRY or whichever arm of NBSR would be handling that; presumably this is a consequence of the strike.
 #1048980  by Cowford
 
"...presumably this is a consequence of the strike"

1. Being competitors in the Bakken, it's pretty unlikely that crude from any BNSF-local loading points would route via cgo-CP. 2. As overhead carriers, CSX and PAR have likely sharpened their pencils to lessen that chance even further. 3. I'm sure the oil marketers/Irving like nothing more than to keep at least two routing options in play.
 #1048991  by rootsblown
 
The word is out. That's it. MMA is shutting down! They can no longer move any freight west bound. Now, the waiting game to see how much of a squeeze this will have on their wallet before someone throws in the towel.
 #1049002  by JayBee
 
For the duration of the strike CP is routing traffic between the D&H and the Soo Line/DM&E via NS from Chicago and then over either the Southern Tier to Binghamton or via Horseshoe Curve to Harrisburg, PA. So far a manifest, a Ethanol train and a Crude Oil train have operated over these routes using NS' train symbols for detour trains.
 #1049120  by Rockingham Racer
 
rootsblown wrote:The word is out. That's it. MMA is shutting down! They can no longer move any freight west bound. Now, the waiting game to see how much of a squeeze this will have on their wallet before someone throws in the towel.
A source for this "word" would be appreciated.
 #1049235  by rootsblown
 
I'm surprised it wasn't in the Bangor Daily Newspaper before they informed the employees. I expect to see it in there this week sometime. All I can say is its the truth.
 #1049240  by Dick H
 
"Back-to-work legislation looms over CP workers"

http://business.financialpost.com/2012/ ... p-workers/

Looks like the Canadian Government will step in and order
a 120 "cooling off" period in the next few days. But even a
short shutdown has been bad news for the MM&A. Anyone
know if the NBSR is moving former MM&A traffic via CN and
or PAR?
 #1049327  by roberttosh
 
Dick H wrote:"Back-to-work legislation looms over CP workers"

http://business.financialpost.com/2012/ ... p-workers/

Looks like the Canadian Government will step in and order
a 120 "cooling off" period in the next few days. But even a
short shutdown has been bad news for the MM&A. Anyone
know if the NBSR is moving former MM&A traffic via CN and
or PAR?
Railroads typically don't screw each other on traffic diversion when it comes to strikes as the shoe can be on the other foot at any time. That being said, The Irvings and whoever else ships over the MMA to non CPRS served consignees is more than likely at least for the time being going to have to use CN and or Pan Am routings.