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General discussion about railroad operations, related facilities, maps, and other resources.

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 #1238951  by Backshophoss
 
Over time and due to EPA regs,much of the mainline installed fueling points have been shut down or upgraded to make the EPA
happy,most shortlines get fuel from tank trucks,mostly due to not having any kind of facilty to begin with.
Amtrak at ABQ gets fuel from a contractor that BNSF uses to fuel distrubited power locos at Belen.
The old platform fuel racks were removed,most likely by EPA order,due to age and leaks in the plumbing
(Tanks were above ground but old).
At Belen,any train with distrubited power,if long enough(aka 10k train) the middle set will get fuel at the racks in Belen,
the lead set and the tail end set will have trucks bring fuel to them.
Locos left at far ends of a branch or local service that cannot cycle thru an engine service facilty regularly,will get fuel by truck
Locos using BioDiesel or LNG fuels,unless the facilty has seperate racks for BioDiesel/LNG, get fuel by truck by default.
 #1239077  by ExCon90
 
Fuel costs can also influence where refueling is done. A Class I extending over many states may have a better price on fuel at some points than at others; in such cases the standing instructions may be for all locos to top up whenever passing through those points regardless of need.
 #1239238  by Sir Ray
 
Previous posts talk about EPA regulations, but when you look at various images of truck to loco fueling, the fueling is often shown over regular ballast - no concrete fuel pad with a drainage or recapture system to handle minor fuel spills. Hmmm...

Always interesting to see websites for prototype rail services (this case, refueling)
 #1239278  by Backshophoss
 
Depending on the state involved,a pad and a bucket are the spill prevention materials used,
will the requrement of a person(aka driver) to be in attendence at the time of fuel transfer.
 #1239313  by DutchRailnut
 
since it a home fueling truck,how much protection is afforded when fueling a house ?????
 #1250651  by scharnhorst
 
Refueling large road Locomotives in the Yards ended in New York once CSX took over there share of Conrail in order to avoid the high NY Fuel taxes From what I know only a hand full of loco's get fueled up by local fuel dealers such as yard jobs and loco's used in local service. Most railroads with in the state as far as short lines go have a local fuel dealer fill there locomotives.
 #1251560  by ExCon90
 
The same thing happened on "What determines the distance between signals?" I don't remember whether it was the same person on both threads.