• CRH380A set new record of world HSR operating speed

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  by GREENLION
 
CRH380A set new record of world HSR operating speed

Congratulations to CSR Sifang Factory!

at 11:40 AM, September 28, 2010, Top speed of a CRH380A train during trial operation on Shanghai-Hangzhou PDL HSR reached 416.6 km/h (259 mph). Break China & World record on non-maglev high-speed rail operating speed, the previous world record was 403.7 km/h (251 mph) reached by Siemens Velaro In July 2006, and previous China record was 394.3 km/h (245mph) reached by CRH3C on June 24, 2008, on the Wuguang PDL

It's all over the news now.

source: http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2010-09-28/113621186681.shtml

The trial operation seems to be a success despite the drizzle.

and in later news, the CRH380A finished the 202 km Huhang PDL travel in 40 minutes at a average speed of 303km/h.

http://www.cs.com.cn/sylm/jsbd/201009/t ... 10558.html

the Huhang PDL is a 350km/h class HSR line set to open by October, 2010, and the designed travel time from Shanghai to hangzhou is 38 minute, at wverage speed of 318.947 km/h
Last edited by GREENLION on Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:25 am, edited 1 time in total.
  by Fan Railer
 
GREENLION wrote:CRH380A set new record of world HSR operating speed

Congratulations to CSR Sifang Factory!

at 11:40 AM, September 28, 2010, Top speed of a CRH380A train during trial operation on Shanghai-Hangzhou PDL HSR reached 416.6 km/h (259 mph). Break China & World record on non-maglev high-speed rail operating speed, the previous world record was 403.7 km/h (251 mph) reached by Siemens Velaro In July 2006, and previous China record was 394.3 km/h (245mph) reached by CRH3C on June 24, 2008, on the Wuguang PDL

It's all over the news now.

source: http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2010-09-28/113621186681.shtml

The trial operation seems to be a success despite the drizzle.

and in later news, the CRH380A finished the 202 km Huhang PDL travel in 40 minutes at a average speed of 303km/h.

http://www.cs.com.cn/sylm/jsbd/20100...8_2610558.html

the Huhang PDL is a 350km/h class HSR line set to open by October, 2010, and the designed travel time from Shanghai to hangzhou is 38 minute, at wverage speed of 318.947 km/h
Second link is broken.....
  by amtrakowitz
 
That's no world record. Current record holder for a test train is the TGV test train that ran at 574.8 km/h (357.2 mph) back on 4/3/07.

No way you're going to get a 197½ mph average speed even on a super-express.
  by kaitoku
 
As Amtrakowitz says the world speed record for conventional rail HSR is the TGV run in 2007:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TGV_world_ ... rd_of_2007

These speed records are one-off events that not indicative of regular operating speeds. Average operating speeds are much lower and in fact HSR trains rarely stay at their top speeds for long periods during regular operating schedules- there is a lot of acceleration and braking. As for higher operating speeds, there are many factors which prevent HSR from reaching those lofty heights (again from wikipedia):
The record-breaking speed is impractical for commercial trains due to motor overcharging, empty train weight, rail and engine wear issues, elimination of all but three coaches, excessive vibration, noise and lack of emergency stopping methods.
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TGV

I emphasized in underline what I believe to be the biggest obstacles to running super fast conventional HSR. Of course, maglev is a different creature.
  by GREENLION
 
amtrakowitz wrote:That's no world record. Current record holder for a test train is the TGV test train that ran at 574.8 km/h (357.2 mph) back on 4/3/07.

No way you're going to get a 197½ mph average speed even on a super-express.
but the TGV record is not operating speed man,and TGV only service at top speed of 340km/h in sctual service. the CRH380A scored 416.6 km/h in commercial experiment run.

In China, high-speed conventional rail lines operate at top speeds of 350 km/h (220 mph),

according to wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed ... ed_records
the fastest maximum operating speed (MOR) of any segment of any high speed rail line is currently 350 km/h (217 mph), a record held by multiple lines in China, first achieved by the Beijing–Tianjin Intercity Rail in August 2008. The trains have shown an unmodified capability of running 394 km/h in tests, and thus have been set to run 350 km/h in normal operation.[17]

The highest scheduled average speed between two scheduled stops is held by China Railway High-speed service on Wuhan-Guangzhou High-Speed Railway.[18] Starting from December 26, 2009, until January 29, 2010, non-stop trains on this line cover the 922-km journey in 2 hours, 57 minutes, at an average speed of 312.5 km/h from Wuhan to Guangzhou North. The average speed slowed down to 309 km/h for a longer 968 km journey when Guangzhou South, the new terminal of the line, was opened on January 30, 2010. Since July 1, 2010, all non-stop trains were canceled and the fastest trains run at an average speed of 296 km/h with one stop in Changsha South. The trains cover Guangzhou South and Changsha South section in 02h02m, hold the speed record at 305 km/h.
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  by amtrakowitz
 
but the TGV record is not operating speed man
Yes it is. It operated at that speed. The Shanghai-Hangchow train that ran at 259 mph was also a test train.
according to wikipedia
The three most meaningless words on the internet. Cite the sources instead, if provided.
  by GREENLION
 
amtrakowitz wrote:
but the TGV record is not operating speed man
Yes it is. It operated at that speed. The Shanghai-Hangchow train that ran at 259 mph was also a test train.
according to wikipedia
The three most meaningless words on the internet. Cite the sources instead, if provided.
Ok let me explain it to you, the TGV setscored 500+ km/h top speed is a Special modified train for test only with three cars .

the CRH380A scored at top speed of 416.6 km/h is a 8 car trainset pruduced for commercial service. doing a experimental operating as it is scheduled to put into real service , it takes 40 minutes to finish the 202 km journey between Shanghai & Hangzhou, when it came into service by around october 20, the journey will only take 38 minute.

see difference between "Operating Speed" & "test speed" now?
  by Fan Railer
 
GREENLION wrote:
amtrakowitz wrote:
but the TGV record is not operating speed man
Yes it is. It operated at that speed. The Shanghai-Hangchow train that ran at 259 mph was also a test train.
according to wikipedia
The three most meaningless words on the internet. Cite the sources instead, if provided.
Ok let me explain it to you, the TGV setscored 500+ km/h top speed is a Special modified train for test only with three cars .

the CRH380A scored at top speed of 416.6 km/h is a 8 car trainset pruduced for commercial service. doing a experimental operating as it is scheduled to put into real service , it takes 40 minutes to finish the 202 km journey between Shanghai & Hangzhou, when it came into service by around october 20, the journey will only take 38 minute.

see difference between "Operating Speed" & "test speed" now?
sigh... some people don't seem to think very much do they?? :wink:
  by GREENLION
 
September 30 & October 1, CRH380A enter temporary service at Huning PDL (Shanghai-Nanjing HSR), during the test operating, top speed reach 342km/h.

CRH380A at Changzhou Station
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inside
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Second class carriage
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Dining car
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first class carriage
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VIP carriage
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CRH380A at Nanjing Station
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at Danyang Station
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  by Fan Railer
 
Fan Railer wrote:Can't wait for someone to post a video of it accelerating out of a station, but for now, found this video of it in service and reposted it on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL4v4gJ73bA - CRH380A Running Revenue Service on The Shanghai-Nanjing Intercity Express Line
XD and my wish has been answered:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGw-tZ4Fu0I
Another repost from v.youku.com. Kudos to the person who caught this clip.
  by David Benton
 
interesting roof structure of the station .
the pantographs appear to be one or 2 cars in form the ends of the trains , are these the powercars , or are the cab cars the power cars . I wonder what the purpose of the wings near the pantographs are as well . ??
  by kaitoku
 
David Benton wrote:interesting roof structure of the station .
the pantographs appear to be one or 2 cars in form the ends of the trains , are these the powercars , or are the cab cars the power cars . I wonder what the purpose of the wings near the pantographs are as well . ??
I believe these trainsets run in formations of unpowered cab cars, while the remaining are motored. The fairings are to reduce wind resistance/turbulence around the pantographs, a concept, ahem, "inspired" by shinkansen designs.

300 series:
http://www.mc.ccnw.ne.jp/series211/bull ... iginal.JPG
  by David Benton
 
lol . the Chinese seem to get "inspired" by alot of designs , right down to the last nut and bolt . Mind you , the first Datsun was a bolt for bolt copy of an Austin , so i guess the Japanese cant complain .