Childrens Museum Utica NY

Caboose supposedly was sold ages ago.

traingeek8223 wrote:Fence went up last October. Sorry. Should have mentioned that.

Ah Ok. For some reason I seem to remember it being up a bit longer, Like since last Summer. Ah well. No big deal.

I do know someone from the Houston Railroad Museum (Part of Gulf Coast Chapter, NRHS) who was considering buying the dining car for the Museum's collection (The museum has several passenger cars, the majority being Santa Fe cars...But no diner). Upon looking at it, they decided not too due to how much of a pain it would be to move it, cost of rigging equipment, limited space, insurance, transport cost, etc.

Sort of put another nail in the coffin, but can't lose all hope..

Alek S

As of last week - the equipment is still there... hasn't moved.

The only thing happening lately is the Childrens Museum is using up all the lawyers in the phone book but keep getting the same answer: "You don't have a case. Let it go". Sooner or later they will give up and the equipment can be moved.

http://www.uticaod.com/latestnews/x1367 ... ay-be-soon" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
The Utica & Mohawk Valley Chapter, National Railway Historical Society anticipates immediate disposition of three items of historic rolling stock, now on outdoor display at the Children's Museum of History, Science & Technology, 311 Main Street, Utica, NY (next door west of Utica Union Station).

All are on panel track, not connected to active track, but adjacent to city streets and within 300 feet of a New York, Susquehanna & Western, a connection to CSX, and (across CSX) the Mohawk, Adirondack & Northern Railroads. The locomotive and diner share one panel truck; the caboose is on a second.

The U&MV Chapter will consider donating pieces to responsible non-profit organizations. Bids from private individuals or for-profit businesses are also welcome, but they should not anticipate donations of equipment. New owners will be responsible for removing the equipment as soon as possible, at their own expense.

1) ALCO RSC-2 (A1A-A1A) diesel road switcher, built in 1952 for Seaboard Air Line. Later Seaboard Coast Line, Florida Power & Light, Adirondack Railway (1979-80), and New York, Susquehanna & Western (for parts).
CONDITION: Not operable: traction motors and numerous engine parts removed by previous owner. Painted Adirondack Railway forest green and gold in Dupont Imron.

2) Budd stainless steel dining car, built in 1937 as Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe 1479. In Amtrak service 1971-early '80s.
CONDITION: 73-year old body testifies to durability of Budd's patented "Shot-Weld" construction, but needs many fogged windows replaced. One truck and one draft gear not roadworthy. Small gas hot-air furnace installed and 110-volt entrance installed for museum display.

3) Pennsylvania Railroad steel cabin car (caboose) 477594, model N5e built at Altoona Shops in 1929. Said to be one-of-a-kind. Penn Central and Conrail until retired in mid-a980s.
CONDITION: Carbon steel body generally sound but needs body work, window work, and interior restoration. Painted and lettered PRR. No modern utilities installed.

SERIOUS INQUIRIES ONLY PLEASE, TO:
Utica & Mohawk Valley Chapter, NRHS
P.O. Box 257, Whitesboro, NY 13492

That last notice is an old one. I got the email forward too. It was originally sent our three years ago.

Without divulging too many details (nothing is in writing yet), the three pieces should all be going to new homes soon. All logistics and details are currently being hammered out, with an eye on moving before the year is over.

For the sake of covering all the bases:

http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopi ... 4&t=153856" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The ALCO Historical & Technical Society is looking for help from the preservation community in saving a rare ALCO RSC2

Any news as to what is going on with this stuff??

scharnhorst wrote:Any news as to what is going on with this stuff??

Latest news reports I've seen indicate that the rolling stock is the least of the museum's worries right about now. They've got enough internal strife on their board of directors to last most organizations a year or three.

Plans are still in place for the equipment to move off site, but with the current public infighting taking place at the Childrens Museum, all parties involved have decided to let the dust settle. If anything is moved it will likely not happen until summer, but there is still the possibility of it staying where it is, depending on what happens with the personnel shake up at the Museum. Stay tuned.