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Discussion relating to the Delaware, Lackawanna & Western, the Erie, and the resulting 1960 merger creating the Erie Lackawanna. Visit the Erie Lackawanna Historical Society at http://www.erielackhs.org/.

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 #315233  by TB Diamond
 
The Wellsville and Buffalo Railroad, after severing ties with the Buffalo & Susquehanna, lasted until 17 November 1916 and was torn up shortly thereafter. The rails and some locomotives were sent to the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean by a German u-boat in transit to France. This information from THE B&S by Paul Pietrak.
 #315856  by JimBoylan
 
nydepot wrote:The B&S from Wellsville to Buffalo was torn out in 1917-ish
Matt Langworthy wrote:Are you sure? In order for the the tracks that became WAG to be physically connected to the B&O prior to the flood of '42, there would have been at least a connection between Wellsville and the BR&P in Freedom.
Connection to BR&P is South of Wellsville via the 1942 flood portion, B&S abandonment in 1917 is North of Wellsville to Buffalo Exchange St. Station.

 #315950  by nydepot
 
Eventually the part that became the WAG was the orphaned portion of the B&O, disconnected from the B&O system entirely.

Charles
 #315953  by nydepot
 
Yes, the text in that link is poor. If you read the articles that are linked on that page, particularly the "Orphaned Lie" article, you'll see the system was disconnected from the B&O. The map showing the WAG at the top of the page shows one line heading north from Wellsville, the Erie (EL) line.

Charles
Matt Langworthy wrote:Are you sure? This link indicates the year was indeed 1942. In order for the the tracks that became WAG to be physically connected to the B&O prior to the flood of '42, there would have been at least a connection between Wellsville and the BR&P in Freedom. [/url]
 #318787  by Matt Langworthy
 
nydepot wrote:Yes, the text in that link is poor. If you read the articles that are linked on that page, particularly the "Orphaned Lie" article, you'll see the system was disconnected from the B&O. The map showing the WAG at the top of the page shows one line heading north from Wellsville, the Erie (EL) line.

Charles
Matt Langworthy wrote:Are you sure? This link indicates the year was indeed 1942. In order for the the tracks that became WAG to be physically connected to the B&O prior to the flood of '42, there would have been at least a connection between Wellsville and the BR&P in Freedom. [/url]
I just assumed the map was of WAG as it existed at the inception of independant operations in 1954.
 #320999  by ChiefTroll
 
Are you sure? This link indicates the year was indeed 1942. In order for the the tracks that became WAG to be physically connected to the B&O prior to the flood of '42, there would have been at least a connection between Wellsville and the BR&P in Freedom.
The connection between the B&S and BR&P that tied the whole thing to the B&O in 1932 was at Dubois, PA. There was no connection north of Dubois. After the 1942 flood, the remaining northern section of the former B&S was completely detached from the rest of the B&O.

The B&O bought the B&S and the BR&P in 1932 as part of a scheme to built the shortest low-grade route between New York and Chicago. They wanted the B&S from Sinnemahoning to Dubois, and the BR&P from Dubois to Eidenau Jct, to fill in that part of the line. They planned to come out of Jersey City on the CNJ to Nesquehoning Jct and Tamaqua, over the Reading to Newberry Jct, and then either build between Newberry Jct and Sinnemahoning or acquire trackage rights on the PRR. The depression put an end to that plan.