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 #1317301  by Adams_Umass_Boston
 
 #1317305  by Adams_Umass_Boston
 
More from the city Archive.
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ImageOpening in Easterly Side of Sullivan Square Car House by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageChanges at Beacham Street Incline by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageIlluminated Sign Sullivan Square Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageArlington Avenue at Beacham Street by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageChange at Beacham Street Sullivan Square Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Station, West Incline, Progress View by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Yard by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageProgress on Steel Erection Sullivan Square Station (Reconstruction) by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Station Changes by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageNew Track at Sullivan Square by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Station, New Steel Work on Main Street by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Progress on New Steel Work by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Station Platform, North End of the Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageProgress on Track Laying, Car Storage Yard, Sullivan Square by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageIlluminated Sign Sullivan Square Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Terminal, Interior, New Car House, Repair Shop by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Terminal, Interior New Car House by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Shops, Yard, Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Terminal, Yard, Car House, and Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Shops, Yard, Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
 #1317307  by Adams_Umass_Boston
 
More from the city Archive.
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ImageCharlestown Power Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageCharlestown Power Station. West Side, Old and New Portions by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageEngine Parts and Cars at Charlestown Power Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Terminal, Car House Yard and Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Station, Looking Southerly by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Station, Ground Floor West Side by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Station, Ground Floor Entrance by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Terminal, Westerly Incline, End of Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Yard, General View by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Terminal, West from Roof of Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Terminal, Yard, Car House, Inclines by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
Image014 and Train at Sullivan Square Terminal, Training Trip by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
Image014 and Train at Sullivan Square Terminal by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Station, East End by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Terminal, Interior of Car House by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Car House by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Terminal by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Terminal, New Car House by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
ImageSullivan Square Terminal, West End by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
 #1317333  by The EGE
 
Wow! Thank you for all that!

I've never seen more than a single photo of Everett station before. Despite its non-standard temporary construction, looks like it was just as cleverly set up as the other BERy transfer stations.
 #1317352  by Adams_Umass_Boston
 
The EGE wrote:Wow! Thank you for all that!

I've never seen more than a single photo of Everett station before. Despite its non-standard temporary construction, looks like it was just as cleverly set up as the other BERy transfer stations.
Your welcome!
There are some photos I hope some of the members can shed some light on.

Like this one. I have never seen a photo of that sign. Does anyone know what the other destinations that would have lit up?

ImageIlluminated Sign Sullivan Square Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr

Or what type of bus this is?
ImageSullivan Square Lower Level; Type 5 Number 5593 and Train Coach 915 by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
 #1317355  by Gerry6309
 
Adams_Umass_Boston wrote:
The EGE wrote:Wow! Thank you for all that!

I've never seen more than a single photo of Everett station before. Despite its non-standard temporary construction, looks like it was just as cleverly set up as the other BERy transfer stations.
Your welcome!
There are some photos I hope some of the members can shed some light on.

Like this one. I have never seen a photo of that sign. Does anyone know what the other destinations that would have lit up?

ImageIlluminated Sign Sullivan Square Station by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr

Or what type of bus this is?
ImageSullivan Square Lower Level; Type 5 Number 5593 and Train Coach 915 by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
The sign would display either Dudley or Forest Hills and via Atlantic Av. if appropriate.

The rubber tired transit vehicle is listed in the roster as an 1930 Twin Coach Model 40 but it isn't. It may have been an ACF gas-electric from the 1920s No. 960 later 1600
 #1317357  by Leo Sullivan
 
First the Sign: Sullivan was the end of the line so, that platform was also the beginning of the
inbound route. Trains ran to Dudley via Subway and via Atlantic Ave. They also ran
Sullivan-Sullivan both clockwise and counterclockwise, same from Dudley. I've never seen a
list of the possible signs but, that is what they would describe. Eventually, it was simplified.
The sign was added in 1904 and replaced by an illuminateable "Drawbridge open" sign by 1912 so, it isn't in a lot of pictures
The bus is a Twin Coach model 40, in service from 7.29. to 1939 (GZ)
LS
 #1317361  by Leo Sullivan
 
I always expect "Adams" to be right on so, checked this pretty thoroughly.
George Z's roster is pretty dependable too.
It really is 915. I've enlarged the front end so the number shows.
It also looks like the rest of the order.
960 was really different being a front engine ACF/GE, apparently one of a kind.
(short lived)
 #1317373  by Gerry6309
 
Leo Sullivan wrote:First the Sign: Sullivan was the end of the line so, that platform was also the beginning of the
inbound route. Trains ran to Dudley via Subway and via Atlantic Ave. They also ran
Sullivan-Sullivan both clockwise and counterclockwise, same from Dudley. I've never seen a
list of the possible signs but, that is what they would describe. Eventually, it was simplified.
The sign was added in 1904 and replaced by an illuminateable "Drawbridge open" sign by 1912 so, it isn't in a lot of pictures
The bus is a Twin Coach model 40, in service from 7.29. to 1939 (GZ)
LS
After 1908 there was no loop service from the north, just through service to Dudley. Forest Hills was added in 1909. The drawbridge sign makes sense after 1919, when there was a draw just out of sight headed for Everett. The Charlestown Draw was about a mile away, with two stops between, and the southbound platform opened in Aug. 1912, adding another stop.

When I first looked at it the bus seemed to be an old front engine model. In any case the caption is wrong.
 #1317442  by MBTA3247
 
Adams_Umass_Boston wrote:Image[Everett Station] by City of Boston Archives, on Flickr
This is mis-captioned. That's the north end of Sullivan Square.
 #1317451  by Leo Sullivan
 
As an example of why to put all info with a post.
The picture of the illuminated destination sign over the track was
taken on Feb. 15 1904 when all those lines were running and, the
Drawbridge sign was photographed in 1913 so had to refer to the
No. Wash. St. Bridge ( Charlestown High Bridge )
Everything written about those pictures was correct at some time
so, dates are very important.
 #1319463  by blackcap
 
Here's a scan of a map that goes way back, to 1852 in fact from Wikipedia:

Image

The map shows some of the future commuter rail lines as they existed in 1852. There was no rapid transit as we know it today; one got around back then on foot, by horse or horse-drawn vehicles, the East Boston ferry, or the railroads. Also, the town lines weren't as they are today, Everett and Belmont didn't yet exist, several towns on the map have since been renamed, and Brighton, Charlestown, Roxbury and Dorchester were not yet annexed into Boston.
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