west point wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 3:57 pm What will the running time if an Amtrak has to follow a commuter train <> Joliet?.Does the traffic geometry allow for 110mph operation? This would be an excellent place for the train to get a head start on vehicles - especially if running non-stop from Union Station to Joliet with an average speed of >60 mph.
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Through Brighton Park at 110? I'd stand out in the rain to see that.
Just looked at the Metra Rock Island route--looks less direct with lots of stops--would this really be an improvement?
Now that the CRI&P "flyover" from La Salle St. of the NYC and PRR is in place, be difficult to access CUS nowadays.
west point wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 3:57 pm What will the running time if an Amtrak has to follow a commuter train <> Joliet?.Metra's Heritage Corridor has 7 stops, 3 of which are Amtrak stops anyway (Union Station, Summit and Joliet). They run three inbound trips for morning rush and 3 outbound for PM rush and that's the entire schedule.
The commuter trains take 1:06 outbound / 1:07 inbound. Amtrak is scheduled at 50-57 minutes. So in the unlikely event that a commuter train interfered, it might hold an Amtrak up by 10-20 minutes or so.
The only outbound Amtrak that could conflict is the 5:20 pm departure, running half an hour after the 4:50 Metra outbound, and 10 minutes before the next Metra train. The risk of a Metra train running half an hour behind is very low in my experience. I'd be more worried Amtrak would bung themselves up by departing 12 minutes late.
Gilbert B Norman wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:08 am Now that the CRI&P "flyover" from La Salle St. of the NYC and PRR is in place, be difficult to access CUS nowadays.I would think a major undertaking at Joliet as well?
IMO it is important to keep one roundtrip on CN. That way crews are kept qualified on both routes so when one route is blocked the other route will be used without any long delay.
ExCon90 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 6:09 pmMr. Ex Con, that would indeed be "sport". If entering Joliet over the CRI&P, a Lincoln Service train would first need to go over the existing SE quadrant CRI&P/ GM&O connector, which would have such train South of the JUD (Joliet Union Depot). Then train would need to backup into the station to handle its business.Gilbert B Norman wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:08 am Now that the CRI&P "flyover" from La Salle St. of the NYC and PRR is in place, be difficult to access CUS nowadays.I would think a major undertaking at Joliet as well?
But oh well, this is supposed to be "High Speed Rail"; apparently featuring "backing into sidings" to allow opposing direction trains to pass. All too often, reportedly, the opposing traffic is a UP freight.
regarding Joilet,
Perhaps the plan is to build a platform alongside that southern connecting track from the CRIP to the GMO alongside the curve and across from the existing commuter platform. Otherwise, Mr. Norman is right, using either one of the existing stations would involve a short backup.
Perhaps the plan is to build a platform alongside that southern connecting track from the CRIP to the GMO alongside the curve and across from the existing commuter platform. Otherwise, Mr. Norman is right, using either one of the existing stations would involve a short backup.
With all the money recently wasted on the current Joliet depot, those suggestions were either ruled out or ignored. But I also wouldn't put it past Illinois politics to see someone find a way to take more money for the project.
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Apparently a set made it to Pontiac today in revenue service for the first time.
"It's not even a railroad anymore, it's a circus act."
Observed 380 (24) "more or less" OT
Charger
Venture Coach Biz set (2 cars)
Amcafe
Charger
Venture Coach Biz set (2 cars)
Amcafe
Can you clarify what you mean by "Full Set"? I don't understand how it can be a "full set" if there's still an Amfleet car present.
After observing 380(12) today with its usual Charger. A-I Business/Café, Coach+Coach/Business set, I started wondering how, when all the Ventures are accepted, how will these trains be made up?
Will such be Business/Coach+Coach, Café, Coach+Coach or some other combinations. I guess the Business Class will have to walk to the center of the train for their "comps".
If one articulated car plus one regular suffices, that's a lot of equipment running around empty.
Will such be Business/Coach+Coach, Café, Coach+Coach or some other combinations. I guess the Business Class will have to walk to the center of the train for their "comps".
If one articulated car plus one regular suffices, that's a lot of equipment running around empty.