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Can anyone remember the last time either Wakefern or Grocery Haulers sidings in Elizabeth were serviced?

Jersey has been deindustrializing for decades. Conrail might not have "let them go" per say. They might have simply relocated or found better transportation alternatives.

I used to work for Oldcastle and we were building a Sakrete plant along the spur to Calverton but it appears to have never worked right and isn't listed by the company anymore. They were talking about getting stone by barge or rail. Did they ever accept a load of anything out there?

They ran trains out of Dix and McGuire side or the NAS Lakehurst side?

Do you know if they ever hauled all of that contaminated soil off of the NAS at Lakehurst? There was talk of rehabbing the line aboard base to do just that.

And a thank you and oo-rah to you, sir, for the information!

Hmm. Thank you very much. Thought that BR&W was owned by C&D but i guess i just got that backwards.

I'm just getting reacquainted with the railroad scene in the area. So, DRRR is part of C&D's system? Sorry if that's a bit of a pedestrian question to ask but I was away for the takeover from Conrail.

I'm not sure of the exact revenue split, but I think it might be a predetermined flat dollar amount, rather than a percentage. I'm just not familiar enough with shortline balance sheets to be able to state anything definitively. I'll ask someone when I have an appointment with them and let you know ...

Way, way, way back when I tried to ship sand to the concrete plant in Coopersburg but was told the same thing.

Yeah, a trucking company will always beat rail for shorter hauls, especially when you can't max out the railcars. The last rate I got, again back in NS days, was about $5/ton more expensive than trucking.

normally the shortline rate is built right into the rate quote you get. If you are used to shipping by truck you will HATE waiting sometimes weeks for a rate quote from a Class 1. The shortlines are generally excellent folk though. I know two sand and stone shippers and a cement receiver who can't u...

Shorter hauls generally equal higher cost per mile. Never got a rate for a haul from Phillipsburg except back in NS days for cement to Kenvil area. The price was ridiculous and there was a weight limitation so we never shipped by rail.

Scranton area railfan back on the grid after too long an absence. Love trolleys and trains.

I do freight rates for work now and again and, before surcharge, rail carriers seem to get around 2.50 per mile on the longer hauls.