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Discussion related to Amtrak also known as the National Railroad Passenger Corp.

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 #67630  by hsr_fan
 
A couple of months ago Amtrak replaced the welded rail through Princeton Junction, NJ on both of the inside tracks without replacing the ties.

 #67636  by DutchRailnut
 
as long as the rail thats installed has same footprint as old rail, there would be no need to replace ties or hardware.

 #67689  by hsr_fan
 
There are plastic pieces in there, I think. I have noticed that thew newer tie clips are different than the ones used with the older concrete ties.
 #67763  by NellieBly
 
When Amtrak first put concrete ties on the NEC in the 1970s, they used the Pandrol "E" clip, which looks kind of like a 3-D pretzel. Now they're using a newly-designed "Fastclip" that looks like a "W". Both function the same way, with a "toe" of the clip resting on the base of the rail and in tension so there is a "toe load" of about 3,000 PSI.

Concrete ties are surprisingly good conductors of electricity, so to prevent signal circuits from shunting in wet weather, a fiberglass or plastic insulator is placed between the toe of the clip and the base of the rail. The clip itself is, of course, steel.

All the "jewelry" (clips, plate, fastening system, insulators) runs to about $25 per tie, versus a few cents for a pair of cut spikes for a wood tie and maybe $5 for the double-shoulder plate.
 #67811  by hsr_fan
 
NellieBly wrote:When Amtrak first put concrete ties on the NEC in the 1970s, they used the Pandrol "E" clip, which looks kind of like a 3-D pretzel. Now they're using a newly-designed "Fastclip" that looks like a "W".
Exactly! Of course, when Amtrak replaced the rails on the stretch through Princeton Junction recently, they used the older type of Pandrol clips, since they didn't replace the ties.

 #68670  by Swedish Meatball
 
Off topic but I did notice that the Clinton station's high level platform is almost complete.

 #68692  by njtmnrrbuff
 
Amtrak is NOT going to stop at Clinton.

 #68753  by shadyjay
 
All "stations" along the Shore Line East service between New Haven and Saybrook are being upgraded with high level platforms. Find out more at www.shorelineeast.com. Saybrook was already upgraded and obviously the two NHV stations are already high level. I believe Branford, Guilford, and Clinton are now under construction. Work has yet to start on Madison, and at Westbrook - no permanent station location has been established.

-Jay Hogan

 #68772  by Swedish Meatball
 
Old Saybrook & New London were upgraded because of the Acela has no traps. The Acela's have yet to stop at OS. The length of the platforms is absurd they are only 3 cars. CDOT has no vision when it comes to rail service. If the Q-Bridge is going to be the nightmare we all expect it to be the Shore-Line trains will be packed in a couple of years.

 #68803  by njtmnrrbuff
 
DO NOT expect the Acela to stop at Old Saybrook. That station gets pretty good service by the Regionals.

 #68936  by Swedish Meatball
 
I would not expect them to stop at OS, they can barely keep their schedule when skipping NHV.