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 #658899  by Frank Hicks
 
Does anyone know of any sources of info on LIRR passenger cars from the late 1800's? I'm trying to determine the heritage of a combine (http://gelwood.railfan.net/misc-m/mwi-s4bwiu.jpg) that may have been ex-LIRR and am looking for any illustrated rosters that might be in print. I'm looking for a board-and-batten combine, open platform, railroad roof, eleven windows, baggage door all the way at the end of the body, most likely retired by the LIRR around 1905 or so. Thanks!

Frank Hicks
 #658919  by LongIslandTool
 
Ron Ziel shows a wooden LIRR Combine that was preserved far away in his Steel Rails to the Sunrise. Might be a good place to start. It may be the same car to which you refer.

The Long Island's wooden fleet was a consolidation of rolling stock from many different railroads which were absorbed by the Long Island prior to 1910. They came from different manufacturers and had the specifications of their original owners, which makes tracing them difficult.

This is one reason that the Long Island became the first railroad with an all-steel fleet. Bankrupt even back then, the Long Island's wooden passenger cars were generally old, non standard junk that cried out for replacement by the early part of the century. One contemporary news story speaks of a hole in the floor of such a wooden car through which a passenger's foot could pass.
 #658957  by jayrmli
 
The combine mentioned by Tool I believe is on a short line down in Texas, if this is the car you are speaking of.

One of the builders of LIRR wooden coaches was Jackson & Sharp, if that helps any.

Jay
 #658971  by BMT
 
IIRC Jackson & Sharp was also one of the main builders of Brooklyn Union Elevated coaches (and later motored units).
 #659181  by Frank Hicks
 
Thanks for the replies. The combine in the photo, the one I'm researching, was definitely not preserved; it is known to have been scrapped in 1931. I'm just wondering whether there are any illustrated rosters, or even photo albums, in print showing the wooden cars in use on the LIRR around the 1890's.
 #660910  by Work Extra
 
There was a topic here a long time ago which discussed the LIRR wooden combine in Texas. A photo was posted but the car was in bad shape. It would be a nice addition to have but there is no indoor facility on the LIRR to display it.
 #661081  by tj48
 
The railroad was the Moscow, Camden & St. Augustine R.R. I remember reading about it many years ago in a railroad magazine. After a bit of searching I believe it was an article in a 1971 RMC magazine called "Red Combine to Moscow".
Also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow,_Ca ... in_service

The only pictures I could find, although I believe I have seen a more recent picture as well.
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=550288
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=550286