This illustrates the proximity of the lines to each other:
Northbound Riverline Train in Pennsauken, NJ
NJ Transit Train Pushing off Delair Bridge - Pennsauken, NJ
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korbermeister wrote:what is this junction near? can the land around it be developed?I've only been on the RiverLINE twice, but if I remember correctly the land near the connection site is largely undeveloped. I'm unsure what kind of roadway access there is at this location. Others can probably provide more detailed information.
CHIP72 wrote:In a broader sense, it's a shame there aren't connections to the AC Line at ANY of the possible connection sites west of the PATCO/AC Line connection at Lindenwald (with the RiverLINE, Market-Frankford El, or SEPTA PRR north lines/Amtrak at North Philadelphia Station). I never really understood that.
Hopefully a RiverLINE/AC Line connection will be built someday.
korbermeister wrote:what is this junction near? can the land around it be developed?I've only been on the RiverLINE twice, but if I remember correctly the land near the connection site is largely undeveloped. I'm unsure what kind of roadway access there is at this location. Others can probably provide more detailed information.
Septaman113 wrote:Its actually in Delair,NJ. If you go south on River Road coming from Pennsauken,you'll go under neath the Betsy Ross brodge and the come to a intersection. Make a right on Derousse Ave and go down a little, and you come to the Riverline crossing at it will be on you left. There are homes around there but thats about it.[/quote]
chuchubob wrote:Point of information: Delair is a section of Pennsauken.[/quote]Septaman113 wrote:Its actually in Delair,NJ. If you go south on River Road coming from Pennsauken,you'll go under neath the Betsy Ross brodge and the come to a intersection. Make a right on Derousse Ave and go down a little, and you come to the Riverline crossing at it will be on you left. There are homes around there but thats about it.
Septaman113 wrote:According to Google Maps, it is a section of Pennsauken.chuchubob wrote:Septaman113 wrote:Point of information: Delair is a section of Pennsauken.
Its actually in Delair,NJ. If you go south on River Road coming from Pennsauken,you'll go under neath the Betsy Ross brodge and the come to a intersection. Make a right on Derousse Ave and go down a little, and you come to the Riverline crossing at it will be on you left. There are homes around there but thats about it.
You're right. Delair is a part of Pennsauken Township. My parents had friend that lived in Delair and I could be wrong, but I think their mailing address they used "Delair NJ" .It was 35 years ago and I was 7 at the time,so I'm not sure.
Irish Chieftain wrote:I'm still convinced that Pennsauken would remain dead-against it. Not only is it a non-peripheral River Line station; it also puts a station for the AC Line somewhere within Pennsauken's borders, which would be unacceptable to that town's NIMBYs in general. (Note how there is no Pennsauken ACL station at what should be the most obvious location for one, the Westfield Avenue grade crossing. Note further the locations of the River Line stations that are ostensibly for Pennsauken—Route 73, on its northern border with Palmyra, and 36th Street, right on the border with Camden.)However, if the station were made a transfer station (no parking, one had to take a train from elsewhere on the line to access it), would that quiet the NIMBYs, or would that be basically an end run around them?
IMHO, unless they increase ACL service to match that of the River Line, the utility of a transfer station will be very low. And it's still not lost on some people that the present-day River Line used to be the route that former Pennsylvania RR trains took between NY Penn and Atlantic City…
Irish Chieftain wrote:I'm still convinced that Pennsauken would remain dead-against it. Not only is it a non-peripheral River Line station; it also puts a station for the AC Line somewhere within Pennsauken's borders, which would be unacceptable to that town's NIMBYs in general. (Note how there is no Pennsauken ACL station at what should be the most obvious location for one, the Westfield Avenue grade crossing. Note further the locations of the River Line stations that are ostensibly for Pennsauken—Route 73, on its northern border with Palmyra, and 36th Street, right on the border with Camden.)However, if the station were made a transfer station (no parking, one had to take a train from elsewhere on the line to access it), would that quiet the NIMBYs, or would that be basically an end run around them?
IMHO, unless they increase ACL service to match that of the River Line, the utility of a transfer station will be very low. And it's still not lost on some people that the present-day River Line used to be the route that former Pennsylvania RR trains took between NY Penn and Atlantic City…