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Discussion related to everything about model railroading, from layout design and planning, to reviews of related model tools and equipment. Discussion includes O, S, HO, N and Z, as well as narrow gauge topics. Also includes discussion of traditional "toy train" and "collector" topics such as Lionel, American Flyer, Marx, and others. Also includes discussion of outdoor garden railways and live steamers.

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 #549478  by fl9m2026
 
I know it's a LONG shot, but here goes.....

Recently I scored two sets (4 cars) of HO scale subway/metro cars replicating the equipment on the San Juan Puerto Rico "Tren Urbano" operated by ATI, the transit authority for San Juan. These are beautiful models, in married pairs with one car powered. They have full interiors, sharp and attractive (and 100% accurate) pad-printed graphics, and are made by the German firm Halling. For those not familiar with "Tren Urbano", it is a 10.6 mile heavy-rail metro system with 16 stations that opened in 2004. It is a "turnkey build/operate" system (i.e. one firm bids on all aspects of the system, supplies their own sub-contractors and operates the system for a given period of time - in this case 5 years) that was completed by Seimens Transportation Systems. The cars are very attractive 75 foot long stainless-steel units, 3 sets of double pocket doors per side, with AC propulsion and ATO. They are configured similar to LA's Red Line Metro cars in design and appearance.

I stumbled across them completely by accident at a German hobby site, and arranged to buy them and have them shipped here. I was told that the models were made strictly as presentation sets for Seimens employees who worked on the project and were not made available to the general public. I was also told that it was a complete fluke that the two sets I bought were even available. I have no idea when the models were produced (sometime between 1999, when the project began, and now). The boxes they came in, while well illustrated and extremely attractive, with pictures, line drawings ans specs of the actual cars, give no manufacture dates, serial numbers, etc. for the models.

After exhaustive searches of the internet, including numerous world-wide hobby sites and even the German eBay site, it's beginning to look like this may be the case. I cannot find any reference to these models anywhere. The manufacturer, Halling, makes no reference to these models on their site. I was told by the people I bought them from that my only/best hope to locate more sets was to scour the internet and see if perhaps any of the Seimens employees who were given these models were looking to divest themselves of them.

Has anyone ever seen these models besides me, and know of a source of them? I would really like to build a layout based upon this system and at the very least, a module featuring the yard and shops where the trains are serviced/stored.

Any leads/help would be appreciated. Like I said, I know it's a long shot, but I figure that if anyone knows about these models, it would be the patrons of Railroad.Net!

Many Thanks!

Mike S.
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 #549537  by Otto Vondrak
 
I'd be curious to see pictures of these models! Do they operate? Are they to scale, can they be run on standard HO track, or are they merely display pieces?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tren_Urbano
 #549707  by fl9m2026
 
Otto, the models are true 1/87 scale, and are operational with powered trucks on the "A" car, but sadly not lighted, (a situation that looks easily rectifed thanks to a totally removable press-fit roof and Rapido's new 72' Easy-Peasy lighting kit!) and run on standard HO track. I'll try to snap some digital pics and post them here providing I can figure out how to reduce the picture size so it fits the size limits for the board.

BTW, thanks for posting the link for Wikipedia to help illustrate what the cars look like. Should've thought of that myself. Here's a few more areas with pics:

http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/tren/

http://railquip.com/trenurbanoproject.htm

They are a sharp looking bunch of railcars!

Mike
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 #555546  by fl9m2026
 
Otto - I apologize for the delay posting pictures... having issues with the camera... I will post though ASAP as I want you to see how nice these models are!

Mike
 #828700  by fl9m2026
 
I FINALLY got some pics of the 1:87 (HO) ATI/Tren Urbano subway cars made by Halling of Germany. I apologize for the delay. Let's see how these work.....
 #1616030  by Captqc9856
 
15 years late to the party but I worked on the Tren Urbano project for Siemens and I was given a set of these car by our division manager. He was the only person who received a set as these were very limited and only given to the top management personnel.
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 #1640046  by fl9m2026
 
Thanks for the reply!

Then it looks like I was very lucky to score two sets when I did! Since I originally started this thread, I've found only one other person who has two sets (if I recall it was on Facebook), they did not clarify where/when they got them, and planned (like me) on holding onto them (too bad - would've been nice to display a six-car train!)