TrainPhotos wrote:So, i'm confused.... i just checked trenton to new york prices and it's the same.... what gives?Prices haven't gone up. The fare hike is still proposed, not a reality-yet.
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morris&essex4ever wrote:Who knows how much longer gas will be cheap. It's already gone to over $2.The gas price can stay at about $2 longer than you or I imagine, there is a lot of the stuff in the ground, both in Pennsylvania and North Dakota, but also in the Middle East and Alberta. The gas price cannot be the incentive for people to ride the train, the tolls on the tunnels/GWB and the parking fees in NYC are our only hope for at least the next few years.
On a different tangent, is there anywhere ridership data for NJTransit? Monthly would be great, but even quarterly or annual will be good. Recently I have had the feeling that the trains I ride are emptier and I ride in peak hour -- are more people driving already? And the turnpike never seems traffic-y around Secaucus -- in fact the cars I see through the window are visibly faster than any train I have been on during the morning peak hour including the ones that do not stop at Secaucus. Maybe that is due to congestion on the tracks not allowing for the MAS which I hope is higher than 70-75mph (my estimate of the cars' speed on the turnpike).
CNJGeep wrote:31 bucks round trip 15 minutes longer than it used to take is pretty steep price all ready.TrainPhotos wrote:So, i'm confused.... i just checked trenton to new york prices and it's the same.... what gives?Prices haven't gone up. The fare hike is still proposed, not a reality-yet.
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TrainPhotos wrote:So drive? For one person, $31 should just about cover parking.CNJGeep wrote:31 bucks round trip 15 minutes longer than it used to take is pretty steep price all ready.TrainPhotos wrote:So, i'm confused.... i just checked trenton to new york prices and it's the same.... what gives?Prices haven't gone up. The fare hike is still proposed, not a reality-yet.
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And with gas still not very expensive, it's not a bad idea to drive.
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Yea, i live car free, so no, not driving. 
P.S. Have you ever seen the highway traffic in NJ????
P.S. Have you ever seen the highway traffic in NJ????
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TrainPhotos wrote:Yea, i live car free, so no, not driving.The highway traffic can be good to bad just like anywhere else.
P.S. Have you ever seen the highway traffic in NJ????
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Always good to see this on Monday Morning.
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Montclair-Boonton Line: Proposed Elimination of Train #1043, the 12:32 a.m. departure from Hoboken
(Details at Newark and Secaucus Hearings)
1043 doesn't depart from Hoboken it departs from MSU.
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Montclair-Boonton Line: Proposed Elimination of Train #1043, the 12:32 a.m. departure from Hoboken
(Details at Newark and Secaucus Hearings)
1043 doesn't depart from Hoboken it departs from MSU.
Obviously, it's nowhere near as bad as the 2010 fare hikes and service cuts. But it's still a PITA with off peak round trips still discontinued.
"To cure the British disease with socialism was like trying to cure leukaemia with leeches." Margaret Thatcher
So this isnt rail related, but it shows some incompetence at NJ Transit.
They propose to change the 2 zone bus from $2.35 to $2.55. That indicates the people planning this havent ridden transit in their life.
All the rail amounts are nice round numbers, even though transactions are done at a machine.
But for buses, where NJ Transit is maybe the last major system in the country to operate cash only (no swipe card, smart card, or even tokens), they want people to pay $2.55. Who carries around so many coins? $2.50 would cost the agency a miniscule amount in lost revenue, but the round amount would SAVE MONEY via faster customer transactions and more customer convenience.
It's just mind blowing.
For zone 1, they want $1.60 rather than $1.50. Again, that extra dime is idiotic. Youre adding a huge burden to the rider for a minimal increase in revenue.
They propose to change the 2 zone bus from $2.35 to $2.55. That indicates the people planning this havent ridden transit in their life.
All the rail amounts are nice round numbers, even though transactions are done at a machine.
But for buses, where NJ Transit is maybe the last major system in the country to operate cash only (no swipe card, smart card, or even tokens), they want people to pay $2.55. Who carries around so many coins? $2.50 would cost the agency a miniscule amount in lost revenue, but the round amount would SAVE MONEY via faster customer transactions and more customer convenience.
It's just mind blowing.
For zone 1, they want $1.60 rather than $1.50. Again, that extra dime is idiotic. Youre adding a huge burden to the rider for a minimal increase in revenue.
NJT buses accept prepurchased tickets. I don't know where else they sell them, but NJT Riverline vending machines sell zone 1, and the Camden Broadway station bus ticket agents sell other zones.
Other than that, and monthly passes, yeah, the buses are cash only.
Other than that, and monthly passes, yeah, the buses are cash only.
trollyFoamer wrote:NJT buses accept prepurchased tickets. I don't know where else they sell them, but NJT Riverline vending machines sell zone 1, and the Camden Broadway station bus ticket agents sell other zones.Unfortunately, only a very limited amount of lines take tickets.
Other than that, and monthly passes, yeah, the buses are cash only.
So in New Brunswick, where 5 routes leave from the train station that has 8 fare machines, none of them take tickets (the fare machines dont sell them either). Boarding takes a good 5 minutes as people try and get the fare machine to take their dollar bills and random assortment of coins.
I duplicated someone's previous post.
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morris&essex4ever wrote:And with gas still not very expensive, it's not a bad idea to drive.Not a bad idea if you enjoy starting your morning and evening sitting in rush hour traffic, staring at the car in front of you. You can not check or answer work or personal e-mail, read the news, etc. You just sit in one position staring at the car in front of you and trying not to fall asleep. That has been my experience trying to drive once or twice in Northern NJ approaching Hoboken or Jersey City. And of course parking is exteremely expensive as well, both in Hoboken, Jersey City and of course Manhattan. It is possible that driving makes sense in Western NJ bordering PA....
I just looked up some schedules and the last Saturday northbound train from Trenton (12:57am) no longer shows up on the trip planner for May, but it does for April.
Are they doing stealth cuts??? I need that train for events in Philadelphia!
Are they doing stealth cuts??? I need that train for events in Philadelphia!