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 #983224  by KSmitty
 
In something that looks like about 1995, http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=2584843 there are 2 BN C30-7's and a GP9 in unpatched Cascade Green. I thought they date was wrong, but found http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=2685475 to be pretty good proof that it is infact not 1995.

So I ask, how many C30-7's are left, and are they still in use?

How did these 2 survive 15 years with no patch?
 #983328  by JayBee
 
The two C30-7s are long retired from locomotive use. They were kept at Alliance, NE shops as backup power sources at the time of the Y2K computer scare. As non-locomotives (officially) disposition was not a high priority as their value for anything but scrap metal was minimal.
 #983561  by KSmitty
 
Thanks much for the info.

A follow up or 2, if I may...Since you say they were stored for backup power in Alliance NE, and the picture is from Galesburg IL, are they going to meet the torch?

As backup power, what modification is required, and does it disable the units from providing any tractive power if they were put on a train?

Thanks again.
 #985777  by Jtgshu
 
KSmitty wrote:Thanks much for the info.

A follow up or 2, if I may...Since you say they were stored for backup power in Alliance NE, and the picture is from Galesburg IL, are they going to meet the torch?

As backup power, what modification is required, and does it disable the units from providing any tractive power if they were put on a train?

Thanks again.
I believe there is a modification that is done to the main generator to basically output its power instead through the high voltage electrical cabinet and to the traction motors and instead put it out through a large cable going to a building (in a nutshell!). If its a loco going back into revenue service eventually, im sure the modification can be undone, or made so its a kind of switch, but if its retired power, with no real chance of running again, a "quick and dirty" mod im sure could be done without having to worry about making it be able to go back to providing traction power for itself.

NJT has a few spots on the system where there are stub tracks and plugs just for that reason, basically to keep the signals and a few buildings running on a line in the event of a really long power failure. There are also a few Geeps that were modified to be able to be plugged in for this reason.

In a major ice storm in 1998, a CN loco was run down a street, yes a road street, to provide power to a town. this pic is of it going back on to rails.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=346295

Also, sometimes when a loco is bought and scrapped, its prime mover and generator are taken out and overhauled and rebuilt into generators for hospitals, sky scrapers, etc etc etc. I recall reading somewhere that the SP SD45 tunnel motors were a favorite for firms that did this work as the V20 in the SD45 provided more power than a V16 in an SD40.
 #986200  by Komachi
 
Mmmmmm. ALCo. goodness. ** Homer Simpson drooling FX **

Well, technically that was an M420 (or HR412), but it's still ALCo./MLW...


Anyway...

The C30-7s are one of a handful of GE products that I'm a fan of (hey, I'm a die-hard ALCohaulic!) and it's sad to think that the majority of them have been cut up for scrap. I think one of the reasons I like the C30s is because they and I are of the same vintage... 1976. Of course, that also explains why you don't see too many of them around... not too many railroads are interested in operating 35 year-old locomotives!
 #986219  by KSmitty
 
Komachi wrote:...not too many railroads are interested in operating 35 year-old locomotives!
And yet look at all the SD40-2's still on the rails. :D

Seriously though, if you're a fan of the C30's you should really take a trip to the east! MMA uses them as everything from road power to local work on their lines in PQ and on road freights in Maine. They come in every color imaginable, lotsa BN green and FXE Blue/Yellow and tobasco sauce red/green/white...
 #986861  by eaglestar
 
Beats the heck outta those damn new ACe's. They ride like a school bus on a dirt road, and someone at the new EMD forgot the meaning of SOUNDPROOFING!
 #1041397  by scharnhorst
 
what ever has managed to not get cut up made it to Estonia, and Latvia to replace older 40 and 50+ year old Diesel and Electric Soviet era locomotives that are being retired.
 #1054055  by Engineer Spike
 
I never liked these engines. The doors were narrow, which were hard to get through with a grip. The short stubby nose made me feel vulnerable if we hit something. These were typical slow loaders. The onlu good point was they were quieter than a Chevy.
 #1138677  by MEC407
 
KSmitty wrote:
They actually ran it down the road?
They sure did. Not surprisingly it left deep grooves in the pavement. But it got the job done!
 #1138732  by ctclark1
 
Huh... The things you learn...
CN3502 and 3508 were in Boucherville, apparently both suffered damage to the gearcase in the process of moving them down the road and '08 was never actually used during that time. 3555 was apparently deployed for the same purpose in a different city.

http://cnlines.ca/CNcyclopedia/loco/mlw/#CN3508
http://cnlines.ca/CNcyclopedia/loco/mlw/img_3502.jpg
http://cnlines.ca/CNcyclopedia/loco/mlw/img_3508.jpg

Anyway, enough derailing the topic by me.