• NHSL Extension Meetings / Workshops Announced

  • Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.
Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.

Moderator: AlexC

  by JeffersonLeeEng
 
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The slide show image depicted a computer rendering of a sleek train traveling along an elevated rail alongside some houses.

Cries of "No!" immediately burst from the audience.

"Those are our homes," one person shouted.
It looks like the NIMBYs are expressing a very vocal outcry against this project and they may as well quash this thing right out before anything is really done. I suppose we'll just have to be used to the perpetual traffic snarls on the usual deteriorating routes in and out of this "pristine" suburban area.
  by JeffK
 
Was the graphic representative of the final LPA? As I read things the route avoids residential areas as much as possible.

A lot of effort was put into mock-ups of the other alignments including 202, which continued to be presented even after those options were off the table. I can't understand why the opponents are being given fodder to get worked up over options that no longer exist. Unfortunately all of that misinformation has just laid a gas pipeline to the fire. The story's comments are filled with posts from people who are acting like the project was never publicly discussed before, the Frankford El is going to be re-created in K of P, rails will be laid through back yards, etc. etc. There's even one guy who's trying loudly and single-handedly to kill the whole thing in favor of adding BRT lanes on the Expressway because he claims middle-class people don't use trains .... sighhhh...
  by Suburban Station
 
JeffK wrote:
zebrasepta wrote:If you read the Article, it's talking about the NHSL and not the R6 Norristown line
It's beyond just one misunderstanding on this board. Last week Channel 10 mistakenly identified the NHSL as part of the RRD and has failed to change its posted story despite being informed about their error. Then the Inky made things worse by giving prominent space to a letter-writer beating the drum for a completely different route on the north side of K of P using existing freight tracks (?!)

There were at least half a dozen reasons* why an RRD extension didn't even make it out of the starting gate in Phase 1 of the planning process, but it seems a few people just can't let go of the idea.

(*) Construction costs, labor costs, operating costs, FRA regs, service frequency, aural and visual impact, etc. etc.
There are half a dozen reasons for a lot of things. There are half a dozen reasons why this project shouldn't happen? The reasons you listed aren't very good on their own. Rrd has poor aural and visual impact? Perhaps operating costs could be reduced if septa adopted a pop system. Perhaps what you meant was that there were half a dozen excuses made for the inability to take action or develop a workable plan. nhsl is a neat little niche product but it's far from common regional knowledge and the project is flawed in is own right.

Edit: - Removed incorrectly identified poster. Please refer to each other by user name. Don't use people's last names, especially if it's not that person.