NYCTA Tests 11-car F Train

[Paul1705]

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/200 ... ans_o.html

This was used on the Queens Boulevard line years ago. As before, the elevated stations in Brooklyn on the Culver line are too short for eleven-car trains.

In any case, it's just a test; don't look for it in service any time soon.

[r160 F Train]

it is probably a r179

they will be running form late 2009 - 2015

a.k.a "the new train"

[r160 F Train]

i think that's correct

[Kamen Rider]

sorry, thats wrong

the new 11 car train you saw was deffinately a r179.

Right now, those are in testing and will not be officially run until 2010

sorry, but you're the one who is wrong.

the R179 HAS NOT even been ordered yet. we don't know how many, or who's going to build it or how long it's going to be. it's just a drawng on a sheet of paper right now.

[Fan Railer]

sorry, thats wrong

the new 11 car train you saw was deffinately a r179.

Right now, those are in testing and will not be officially run until 2010

wow...

[r160 F Train]

actually, it might have actually been the r160-a/b

since it's pretty rare to see (i ride the F train daily), most people think that the train is in "testing"

but it's actually is service, and officially running

[Fan Railer]

wait, so it's still running? cause if it is, i'm going to sit at coney island and wait for it the next time i get a chance

[Kamen Rider]

the 11 car train is illegel in passenger service under the current contract unless a third crewman is assigned to the train. the 11 car consist was a one shot test.

[Head-end View]

Doesn't the #7 Flushing line regularly run 11 car trains ?

[Kamen Rider]

the contract rule is 1 person per 300' of train. 11x51'= 561' on the 7 is within the limit. 11x60'=660' would require a third crew member.

[Head-end View]

Ah yes..............and that would also explain how they can run 5-car trains in the late-night hours on the other IRT routes with only an operator, no conductor. 5x51 = 255 ft. Interesting................

[cmnkb8]

the contract rule is 1 person per 300' of train. 11x51'= 561' on the 7 is within the limit. 11x60'=660' would require a third crew member.

If thats's that case, does anyone know if there were 2 or 3 crew members required to run the 9-car R110B set, a.k.a. R131? (67' cars, 67x9 = 603, only 3 feet over the limit, but rules are rules, right?)

[Kamen Rider]

I think it might have fallen into a grey area. rules are rules, but 3 feet isn't 60 feet.

[r160 F Train]

it is definately an r179.

those are currently in testing a will be released late 2009

[Fan Railer]

seriously, for the last time, the R179's aren't due to appear on property until at least 2012 at the earliest, and that's being optimistic.
so i have no idea where your pulling this bs out of.

and plus we already know the car numbers involved:
R160A:
9372-9371-9370-9365-9364-9363+9357-9356-9355-9354-9353