by lordsigma12345
I read somewhere where it was stated that the battery hybrid equipment is specifically for the Empire Corridor - will try to find where I saw that - take it or leave it.
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Gilbert B Norman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 4:50 pm Ron, the A-I's comprised three distinct orders which as I recall was an exercise of options.73, 75, and 77 were 48, 46, and 44 years ago, wow!
First order was for 57 cars placed during Oct '73, which were billed as "non powered Metroliners. This was followed by an order of 245 more, and subsequently another 200.
First placed in revenue service Oct '75; final of the 492 cars received March '77.
Why do I get this feeling deep down in my guts that something is really amiss?First word: government. Second word: federal.
Shortline614 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:51 pm Well this thread blew up fast...I see Amtrak replacing "all" the trains using Amfleet 1s with these new trainsets. !!!!!! All !!!!!!!
Here is a question, are these trainsets able to couple or uncouple induvial cars? If yes, you could very easily tailor each trainset for demand. Combine this with not having to swap engines at places like Washington significant cost savings could be realized. If that is not the case perhaps they can run them nose to nose like they do with similar equipment in Europe.
I could easily see Amtrak putting these new trainsets on the Virginia trains to Norfolk, Newport News, Richmond and eventually Christiansburg. Other proposed routes such as the ones to Ronkonkoma, Scranton, Allentown, and Reading will see these trainsets if they come to pass. Why not stop there? Perhaps a Washington-Albany or a Philadelphia-Pittsburg service could be implemented using these trainsets.
Shortline614 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:51 pm If that is not the case perhaps they can run them nose to nose like they do with similar equipment in Europe.Addressing Mr. Shortline's point. I too must wonder if there new sets can be coupled together resulting in a "mid-train" engine. This is standard practice on the OBB where at Salzburg, this combined set will arrive from, say, Vienna, then be split (I cringe whenever I see a Carman uncoupling the Link and Pin as the engine has to reverse to relieve the strain) with one section off to Munich and the other to Innsbruck (actually they chase each other for some 60 klicks on the DB to the Inn River near Rosenheim).
MattW wrote: ↑Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:28 am After reading the Siemens release, I wonder if the battery will be more of a battery-assist where the battery is charged during braking, then used on acceleration so the diesel engine doesn't have to work as hard from a stop.Yeah, I thought with this "backup" battery type of situation a diesel-pulled train might actually operate almost as well as an electric one? Say the battery is used to help with acceleration since that is where they excel, and then the battery only is used to pull through Penn Station, Amtrak could theoretically remove all the catenary and it's maintenance expense and run with hybrid locomotives everywhere.