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Re: Amtrak Diner and Food Service Discussion

 by SouthernRailway ¦  Sun May 31, 2020 2:07 pm ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: Amtrak Diner and Food Service Discussion ¦  Replies: 2046 ¦  Views: 343486

Thanks, gokeefe, as always, you make great points.

But why can't Amtrak have the following, from Norway's railway?

https://www.vy.no/en/travelling-with-us ... ?item=2634

Any all-sleeper train would need to be in addition to current trains.

I fail to see how a couchette-type space would be much more expensive than a regular coach seat.

Re: Amtrak Diner and Food Service Discussion

 by SouthernRailway ¦  Sat May 30, 2020 5:26 pm ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: Amtrak Diner and Food Service Discussion ¦  Replies: 2046 ¦  Views: 343486

You might be on to something there. The Downeaster cafe by NexDine serves food that is one notch above Amtrak's Aramark service. It's good but it's certainly not what you would get from your local farmers market or farm to table cafe. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Thanks, I looked at the m...

Re: Amtrak Diner and Food Service Discussion

 by SouthernRailway ¦  Sat May 30, 2020 3:16 pm ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: Amtrak Diner and Food Service Discussion ¦  Replies: 2046 ¦  Views: 343486

Maybe Amtrak café cars on long-distance trains actually are appealing to their target audiences- maybe there has been market research done and the microwaved junk food in plastic wrap is appealing to people who Amtrak expects will use café cars? I can't fathom, but maybe I'm just being snobby by exp...

I still think that an all-sleeper (i.e., roomettes, Slumbercoaches and couchettes) setup is certainly feasible for most any of the current long-distance routes. I don't see why any of them need coaches when cars could be split into multiple compartments with maybe 6 seats per compartment (and 6 bert...

If an all-sleeper train were profitable, I wouldn’t care or view it as politically incorrect but perhaps the “let’s all be equal even if it means that we all must live in poverty” crowd might. Isn’t the Acela exclusive? I don’t hear criticism of it in that basis. Amtrak should run its trains to be a...

Re: Amtrak Expansion Plan

 by SouthernRailway ¦  Fri May 29, 2020 8:55 pm ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: Amtrak Expansion Plan ¦  Replies: 559 ¦  Views: 74638

Couldn’t Congress authorize funds, but Trump could refuse to spend them? I recall that during the Bush II years, (a Republican) Congress authorized some pretty massive grants for Amtrak, but the funds were never actually given to Amtrak. I don’t think W interfered, but I thought that simply authoriz...

Re: Amtrak Diner and Food Service Discussion

 by SouthernRailway ¦  Fri May 29, 2020 12:05 pm ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: Amtrak Diner and Food Service Discussion ¦  Replies: 2046 ¦  Views: 343486

I like to stock up at Pret A Manger if I can before train or bus trips if I can. I think this might be a better model than Flexible dining, especially if the diners just become bistro cars for the entire train. Sleepers can go buy on board (except maybe for breakfast). https://www.pret.com/en-us/ou...

Re: Do Long-Distance trains need sleepers?

 by SouthernRailway ¦  Fri May 29, 2020 11:31 am ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: Do Long-Distance trains need sleepers? ¦  Replies: 69 ¦  Views: 10129

How about the reverse question (I don't want to hijack Arborway's--who I think very highly of--thread, though): do long-distance trains need coaches? I don't think so, except maybe a "Third Class" type of service. Current Amtrak sleeping cars plus a few new classes of service: ultra-luxur...

It would take a route on which there is enough ridership potential to fill 300 beds in one train. Virginia-DC-NY-Boston has that potential. But it's still hard to do; to beat planes, the train would need to: 1. Leave really late at night (maybe after 9pm) and arrive really early in the morning (befo...

Re: Amtrak Diner and Food Service Discussion

 by SouthernRailway ¦  Fri May 29, 2020 6:57 am ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: Amtrak Diner and Food Service Discussion ¦  Replies: 2046 ¦  Views: 343486

I know you might not believe that it matters but please take the time to send an email to Amtrak Customer Service at customer_relations@amtrak.com. It helps **a lot** when they can get direct feedback from a knowledgeable passenger such as yourself. You may even get a response beyond "we're so...

Re: Amtrak Diner and Food Service Discussion

 by SouthernRailway ¦  Thu May 28, 2020 9:37 am ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: Amtrak Diner and Food Service Discussion ¦  Replies: 2046 ¦  Views: 343486

Rockingham Racer wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 1:53 am Yes, I know. And they are looking to cut $500 million in expenses from what I've read. Sit down dining is low hanging fruit, unfortunately.
Agreed.

While Flexible Dining breakfasts are horrible, dealing with that is better than no train at all. Maybe.

Re: Amtrak DMU / RDC Potential Operation Discussion

 by SouthernRailway ¦  Wed May 27, 2020 2:25 pm ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: Amtrak DMU / RDC Potential Operation Discussion ¦  Replies: 123 ¦  Views: 25821

Over here we keep trying to tell folks "Look we can serve you once a day with a train that goes all the way to Boston and New York, and plus it was designed by Caesar Vergara, and the amfleets look like planes!!!!" and nobody cares, and we wonder why. I think I know the reason- those Flex...

Re: Amtrak DMU / RDC Potential Operation Discussion

 by SouthernRailway ¦  Wed May 27, 2020 1:32 pm ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: Amtrak DMU / RDC Potential Operation Discussion ¦  Replies: 123 ¦  Views: 25821

I must ask, before more foam is spewed over DMU/RDC's run over Class I roads, how many of you have actually ridden in one? I have, in Sweden and Denmark- and I don't want to take another one. EMUs are fine, but DMUs have vibrating motors, making the whole train shake a little bit, which I prefer to...

Re: Amtrak Diner and Food Service Discussion

 by SouthernRailway ¦  Wed May 27, 2020 9:06 am ¦  Forum: Amtrak ¦  Topic: Amtrak Diner and Food Service Discussion ¦  Replies: 2046 ¦  Views: 343486

As long as the Flexible Dining breakfasts are improved, I will deal with Flexible Dining. But to have just one meal- gas station food in a cardboard tray, combined with consistently being told how I'm "wrong" when I ask for breakfast- on the northbound Crescent (almost 8 hours of daytime t...

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