by krapug
Not to change the direction of this thread but my point about longer distance commuter or regional rail lines is that they need to be looked
at when formulating train service from the Pocono region.
As I live Full Time on the East End of Long Island I wanted to clarify a couple of statement about the LIRR East End service. On the South Fork we have NO direct train service to Penn Station, the only dual mode direct train to Penn Station on the Montauk Branch is a Peak Hour Round trip to/fr Speonk. Speonk is not the South Fork. The key reason that the Hampton Jitney kicks the butt of the LIRR in terms of daily ridership between NYC and the South Fork is that the HJ has regulary increased it's schedule to match the changing face of the South Fork (ie more and more year round residents), while the LIRR for the most part still has it's head in the sand. The North Fork service to Greenport is even more of a joke, as the LIRR only has 5 trips orginating/terminating at Greenport in 2004!!.
For many busnessmen like myself Penn Station is a far better destination than the East Side departure points that these bus companies use.
If the LIRR had more frequent service (despite the number of stops, jointed rail etc)) many more of us would use it.
and this leads back to the Pocono Service (if it ever happens), if the schedules are not set up right, it could wind up grossly underused and Martz Trailways busier than ever.
Ken
and for the record the LIRR Montauk Branch is 100% CWR with a top speed of 65mph, while the Greenport Branch from Ronkonkoma east is still 100% jointed or stick rail with a top speed of 45 mph.
at when formulating train service from the Pocono region.
As I live Full Time on the East End of Long Island I wanted to clarify a couple of statement about the LIRR East End service. On the South Fork we have NO direct train service to Penn Station, the only dual mode direct train to Penn Station on the Montauk Branch is a Peak Hour Round trip to/fr Speonk. Speonk is not the South Fork. The key reason that the Hampton Jitney kicks the butt of the LIRR in terms of daily ridership between NYC and the South Fork is that the HJ has regulary increased it's schedule to match the changing face of the South Fork (ie more and more year round residents), while the LIRR for the most part still has it's head in the sand. The North Fork service to Greenport is even more of a joke, as the LIRR only has 5 trips orginating/terminating at Greenport in 2004!!.
For many busnessmen like myself Penn Station is a far better destination than the East Side departure points that these bus companies use.
If the LIRR had more frequent service (despite the number of stops, jointed rail etc)) many more of us would use it.
and this leads back to the Pocono Service (if it ever happens), if the schedules are not set up right, it could wind up grossly underused and Martz Trailways busier than ever.
Ken
and for the record the LIRR Montauk Branch is 100% CWR with a top speed of 65mph, while the Greenport Branch from Ronkonkoma east is still 100% jointed or stick rail with a top speed of 45 mph.