• Federal, Night Owl, Twilight Shoreliner (Trains 65, 66, 67)

  • For discussion of Amtrak's Northeast Corridor (NEC) operations from Boston to Washington, including Acela and these corridors:

    Harrisburg, Newport News, Norfolk, Richmond, Springfield
For discussion of Amtrak's Northeast Corridor (NEC) operations from Boston to Washington, including Acela and these corridors:

Harrisburg, Newport News, Norfolk, Richmond, Springfield

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  by Gilbert B Norman
 
Rockingham Racer wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:51 am Gilbert: the price, which is very high, is listed next to the last departure of the day between Boston and Washington.
Mr. Rockingham, as of a few moments ago, the website is not offering "Private Rooms" on 67 (15 APR).

Now where I believe the confusion arose is that a 910A Acela #2159 (15 APR) departure from BOS, with a change (2.5hr lay) at NYP to #97 (15 APR), Meteor, and occupying a "Private Room", shows as an itinerary.
  by Rockingham Racer
 
Gilbert B Norman wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:21 am
Rockingham Racer wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:51 am Gilbert: the price, which is very high, is listed next to the last departure of the day between Boston and Washington.
Mr. Rockingham, as of a few moments ago, the website is not offering "Private Rooms" on 67 (15 APR).

Now where I believe the confusion arose is that a 910A Acela #2159 (15 APR) departure from BOS, with a change (2.5hr lay) at NYP to #97 (15 APR), Meteor, and occupying a "Private Room", shows as an itinerary.
Yes, thanks for pointing that out. I was a tad too careless when I saw that $340 ticket price, and ascribed it to #67, which is on the line above that. Have a great day up there on the Racetrack!
  by Gilbert B Norman
 
Mr. Rockingham et al, and to our Moderator who may or may not allow this off topic post, I have never understood why in my 42 years living along the line, the BNSF Chicago Sub is called The Racetrack by the railfan community.

Although there is a tangent extending from Cicero (MP 6.3) to my house (MP 18.7), MAS is P 70, F(Z) 60, F 50. Many a "manifest, i.e. anything, moves at 25; why burn up more gas running faster if all you need to get to is Galesburg, your crew is "fresh, and you're not going to turn them back to Clyde on continuous time?

Of course, Mr. JB Hunt or Mr. Schneider, would be on the phone with Warren (forget lowerlings like Carl) if either were to observe a Z Train with their trailers or containers on it poking along at 25.
Last edited by Gilbert B Norman on Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:50 am, edited 1 time in total.
  by lordsigma12345
 
STrRedWolf wrote: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:04 pm Please tell me it's the new Viewliner II sleepers.
I heard a rumor its going to be VL1s - but who knows. I wouldn't be surprised though to eventually see Amtrak essentially use the VL2s exclusively on the Silvers and the VL1s elsewhere.
  by Greg Moore
 
My guess is it'll be V1s, if only because they'll want to use the newer ones on the more popular trains and as they get more of them, they free up V1s.

That said, two other thoughts occur to me:
1) It'll probably align with what's on the Boston section of the LSL, this gives them the ability to more easily rotate equipment in and out.
2) They might also start with a bag-dorm. Gives them another opportunity to do checked baggage, and they don't have to try to fill an entire sleeper.

(now that I'm really dreaming, a set-out sleeper in NYP would be beautiful!)
  by bostontrainguy
 
Greg Moore wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:36 am My guess is it'll be V1s, if only because they'll want to use the newer ones on the more popular trains and as they get more of them, they free up V1s.

That said, two other thoughts occur to me:
1) It'll probably align with what's on the Boston section of the LSL, this gives them the ability to more easily rotate equipment in and out.
2) They might also start with a bag-dorm. Gives them another opportunity to do checked baggage, and they don't have to try to fill an entire sleeper.

(now that I'm really dreaming, a set-out sleeper in NYP would be beautiful!)
No on the bag/dorm. You forgot about the ADA room requirement.
  by urr304
 
It is good to hear that they may be putting sleeping car service on this train. I think it was a travesty that they took off it in first place on their most lucrative and most important routing. That is considering the amount of static the private railroads got when they discontinued sleepers in 1960s on certain overnight routes, and then Amtrak [i.e. the Government] did the same thing.

Amtrak has a complex about switching cars out enroute, only three trains I recall break up or combine consists: Lake Shore Ltd, Empire Builder, and Sunset/Texas Eagle. As stated, switching out sleeper in D.C. could be tied to switch from electric to diesel.
  by Greg Moore
 
Taking the car out at DC, that makes the most sense.
And again, gives them the chance to use it as a protect car if they need to for some reason.

Overall, the extra Viewliners are definitely going to give Amtrak more possibilities!
  by west point
 
"IF" until reservations are available on web site am very skeptical. Night owl sleeper service should be between BOS <> WASH with a V-1 sleeper. That enables LSL compatible . Instead of Newport also gives News WASH is ideal for running cut off sleeper(s) from Crescent and silver service. For each cut off service at WASH frees up one sleeper that does not have to worry by going late into NTP and SSY.

Planning for daily service had better start now as the stimulus bill will be signed very soon. How sleeper service will be scheduled needs to be planned as well. The partial V-2s now in service changes how sleeper service can be scheduled as different from Jan 2020.
  by David Benton
 
Greg Moore wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 2:59 pm Taking the car out at DC, that makes the most sense.
And again, gives them the chance to use it as a protect car if they need to for some reason.

Overall, the extra Viewliners are definitely going to give Amtrak more possibilities!
Off at DC also allows them to send it to Hialeah , which it needs to once every cycle, or 2. Could go Boston, LSL return to NYP, then Meteor to Florida , but thats a long cycle , and lots of switching.
  by danib62
 
I wonder since they're set off at DC if they will let you board early/sleep in late.
  by tpsmyth01
 
It looks like as of this morning sleepers are now bookable between BOS and WAS.
  by danib62
 
Something is off with the pricing. A sleeper for 1 adult on train 66 departing on 4/5 is $288 but you add a second adult and the price jumps to $438... A regular coach fare is currently $49 so not sure why the price jumps $150.
  by Red Wing
 
That's good that it finally posted. When I searched the web after I made my initial post I couldn't find anything. I also verified it through the app.
  by markhb
 
I don't know if there was an official press release, but Amtrak did mention it in a reply here. Off at DC is definitely the deal. No idea on the weird pricing, though.
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