by leviramsey
As far as I know, the only trains barring coach passengers from the dining car are the LSL and Capitol Ltd (for which these menus are not applicable).
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bostontrainguy wrote:Apparently there are new menus out there for LD trains:Chilaquiles for lunch and quesadillas for breakfast? Don’t they have that reversed?
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mtuandrew wrote:Have heard many say the mussels are great and their favorite. Never tried them myself.bostontrainguy wrote:Apparently there are new menus out there for LD trains:Chilaquiles for lunch and quesadillas for breakfast? Don’t they have that reversed?
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I’d consider buying many of these menu items, if they’re prepared well. Not sure about the mussels though, seems a bold choice for an on-board entree considering the inconsistent reputation of Amtrak dining cars.
leviramsey wrote:As far as I know, the only trains barring coach passengers from the dining car are the LSL and Capitol Ltd (for which these menus are not applicable).Yes, thanks. I realized that after I walked away from the computer. My question still stands, though.
mtuandrew wrote:Wonder if that’s what they’re going for, Tad, or to move all food prep to the cafe.
Does the City of New Orleans have both a diner and a cafe-lounge (Sightseer?), or just a Cross-Country Cafe?
mtuandrew wrote:The term buffet back in those days meant table service in a section of a parlor car with a small galley capable of serving food cooked on board, including steaks and chops, as well as full breakfasts. From what I could tell, they were intended for trips where ridership was insufficient to justify a full diner. A good example was the Montrealer, Washington-Montreal Gare Centrale via NH, B&M, CV, and CN. It left Washington at about 4.10 pm with a full diner and a 6-double bedroom-buffet lounge, which I believe served only drinks until New York, where the diner was dropped. After New York (about 8.30 or so) the car served full meals, and breakfast into Montreal the next morning. The difference between a buffet and a diner seemed to be primarily in the seating capacity of the car rather than prices, although a full diner would have more menu items. If you get a chance to see DOVER HARBOR, owned by the Washington Chapter of NRHS (http://www.doverharbor.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; gives a good idea of what those cars mostly looked like), it is a perfectly restored car (actually used on the Montrealer-Washingtonian at one time) as it was in the mid- to late 30's, and representative of cars that operated widely on trains that wouldn't support a full diner and a full lounge. The car that had been removed from the Buffalo Day Express (Washington-Buffalo) was sort of a weird combination of a parlor section, a small buffet section, and a coach section with maybe 12 rows of walkover seats. You could get an omelet made on board, and pie (I assume from a commissary) for dessert. They may have done it with a crew of two, but I never really noted at the time.ExCon90 wrote:As late as 1961 I would often take the day train from North Philadelphia to Buffalo--I would have a bacon-and-egg breakfast in the station restaurant (North Philadelphia!), which would pack a few sandwiches to take out, since #571 had lost its parlor-buffet-coach by that time. I assume that any station restaurant at the time would do that, but I don't think there were many takeout facilities not run by Union News or Fred Harvey (and what was the one in New England?), or whoever had the food concession at that station.(bolding mine)
Can you or one of your contemporaries explain a buffet car to the younger crowd? I’m picturing a cafeteria buffet with premade food in warming trays and a drink dispenser of some type, but that can’t be right. (Still trying to understand the different types of food service available in the Golden Days and how they could be made relevant today.)
Safetee wrote:On the new haven on most of their new york non commuter trains between new york and new haven, union news used to have a guy with a large metal basket and a strong brooklyn accent going through the train announcing sandwiches, candy, drinks etc.Union News had a butcher who shuttled between North Philadelphia and 30th St. all day on NY-Wash trains, announcing "ham sandwich, cheese sandwich, combination ham and cheese sandwich" and managed to get through a few coaches in the 10 minutes available. I will always remember a vendor who worked trains in Grand Central prior to departure; in 1961 I rode No. 15 to Buffalo every so often--he was a real performer who loudly announced "fresh orange juice that will fill you, chill you, and thrrrrrrrill you."
gokeefe wrote:With spaces and dining options like these Amtrak will have all kinds of new competition with onboard options.I sure hope all the new cars everyone is buying have larger trash bins. Takeout containers do take up added room onboard.
eolesen wrote:Anyone who has traveled with small kids already does this. I know, it's not white linen service, but at the end of the day, I'm onboard to get from A to B more than I am to enjoy how I'm getting there.Exactly. Amtrak knows this and that's why they continue to pursue strategies that make the overall travel experience better.