So to open the doors the conductor stands between the cars on little ledges.
Why?
Was it cheaper to build them that way?
Why?
Was it cheaper to build them that way?
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Kamen Rider wrote: BMT equipment save for the standards.So what was the reson for the design decision in the first place (before the IND)?
Passenger wrote:I believe the reason is somewhat lost to history, but one can conjecture that exterior controls and the footplate setup survived so long because of the inherent advantage of increased visibility for the conductor while operating the doors.Kamen Rider wrote: BMT equipment save for the standards.So what was the reason for the design decision in the first place (before the IND)?
It wasn't as if nobody thought of putting them inside.
ExCon90 wrote:It may also have had something to do with the fact that there were no through door controls in the early days; doors in each car were controlled from that car. By placing a conductor between two cars, with controls on the outside, one man standing between the cars was able to control the doors in two adjacent cars.Yes. This is true. I believe the first cars in the system equipped with trainline door controls were the BMT Standards, which makes sense as to why they were also the first cars in the system to introduce interior door controls for the conductors.
Paul1705 wrote:It looks really dangerous. However, during the 1970s, I don't remember any news reports about conductors falling between the cars. I assume that's because of good crew training?As best I can recall, they didn't actually ride outside between stations. They waited until the train was on the platform and almost stopped before going outside; at departure they stayed out there long enough to observe the platform as the train left, and then went inside.
ExCon90 wrote:That's exactly what they did. They rode inside while the train was moving, went out as it was coming to a stop, and came back insideonce they had observed the platform for the requisite 3 lengths.Paul1705 wrote:It looks really dangerous. However, during the 1970s, I don't remember any news reports about conductors falling between the cars. I assume that's because of good crew training?As best I can recall, they didn't actually ride outside between stations. They waited until the train was on the platform and almost stopped before going outside; at departure they stayed out there long enough to observe the platform as the train left, and then went inside.
Paul1705 wrote:Yes, I saw them climbing up and down at each stop. The moments they had to observe the platform on the way out of the station seemed the worst, and then they had to step backwards to get back down. And at outside stations the weather was a factor too.I think so, iirc, the first cars on the IND with interior door controls were the R16s.
Didn't the R-10s have the same arrangement?