OportRailfan wrote:Renovations will most likely be needed. I know there are a pair of X crossovers on one end, not sure about the other end.Yea; in that case, it would make more practical sense to extend towards the Journal Square direction.
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OportRailfan wrote:Renovations will most likely be needed. I know there are a pair of X crossovers on one end, not sure about the other end.Yea; in that case, it would make more practical sense to extend towards the Journal Square direction.
JCGUY wrote:Those of you interested in this project might want to get on the PA's website. The construction committee's video record of the public meeting held on March 28 describes the project partly in detail and partly in broad strokes (i.e., they have a specific idea of what they want built and where but they have not commenced final design work). The project is fairly complex, essentially involving the building of four separate headhouse structures. The presenter took the view that additional modern head houses on the east side of Rodgers Blvd. would come on line two years after construction commences. Commencement of construction is going to hinge on completion of property acquisition, demolition, remediation and probably nuisance permitting and other matters left undiscussed, as well as final design I suppose.First of all, thank you for posting the link.
There was a reference in the meeting to the "realignment" of NEC and PATH tracks. There was no explanation of that statement. Given the lack of explanation, I suppose the alignment alteration is a simple matter of moving tracks slightly to align to new platform configurations. I was wondering, however, whether anyone knew if the new station contemplates an alignment change that would allow for additional through tracks in the area for NEC movements?
TDowling wrote:I assume that the direct runs from NWK to 33rd were a temporary service caused by the terrorist attacks.Since wtc ceased to exist and exp was not set up to turn trains at the time, they opted to run them to 33rd. Some of the older cars actually had nwk-33rd on the conductor station's destination/route selector.
nyrmetros wrote:I still do not understand why PATH trains are not run direct from Newark to Midtown.The simple answer is that there is not enough track capacity at Newark Penn to turn trains from both lines around during rush hours.
Fan Railer wrote:Actually, it's because it would conflict with hob-exp and 33rd-jsq trains on the old section. They all ready run every 5 minutes on nwk-wtc and they share exp with hob-exp trains... Gap ends up being about 3 minutes at exp. The other pinch point is pavonia newport, which all ready has to fit wtc-hob and 33rd-jsq trains. Not to mention the limitations of the uptown stations to handle high volumes of people due to their restricted platform space and confined street access. Only a new signaling system (which is being installed) could have any chance of fitting more trains. One easy way to temporarily boost trains per hour is stage them on the 2 tall tracks & let them load & go at nwk, then hold them at wtc and alternate departures from one side of the platform & the other. I'm not sure if they have enough cars to do this at peak hours though. I was thinking if they did that plus skipped grove street all together every other train you could gain a bit more tph as well. Not sure if that's possible either.nyrmetros wrote:I still do not understand why PATH trains are not run direct from Newark to Midtown.The simple answer is that there is not enough track capacity at Newark Penn to turn trains from both lines around during rush hours.
Fan Railer wrote:I got off at Grove Street this week and exited at the east end of the station. The way out is actually level for a good two car lengths before heading up a flight of stairs. That makes me think the extension will be constructed by breaking through the walls separating this passageway from the trackways, rather than extending the platform westward.OportRailfan wrote:Renovations will most likely be needed. I know there are a pair of X crossovers on one end, not sure about the other end.Yea; in that case, it would make more practical sense to extend towards the Journal Square direction.