Weekend dual modes on the Port Jeff branch

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Re: Weekend dual modes on the Port Jeff branch

Post by Riverduckexpress » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:37 pm

Looks like the dual-mode trips will not be returning in September after all:

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From the July 2019 LIRR and Metro-North committee meeting handbook, page 90: http://web.mta.info/mta/news/books/pdf/ ... _MNRLI.pdf

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Re: Weekend dual modes on the Port Jeff branch

Post by njt/mnrrbuff » Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:22 am

Well, it's not a surprise about the weekend dual modes being discontinued and lets pray that that's only temporary. These next couple of years will be very busy for construction crew working on the third track on the Main Line.

As for those four pairs of trains on the OBB during weekends, it's no surprise that they are going to be discontinued. The Oyster Bay Line isn't the fastest and most direct line when we are talking about going to Manhattan. People who live along the Oyster Bay Branch are within easy access of stations on other lines with more frequent service(Pt. Jefferson Line, Pt. Washington Line, and the Main Line).

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Re: Weekend dual modes on the Port Jeff branch

Post by MACTRAXX » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:23 am

RDE (and Everyone):

Thanks for the information concerning changes in LIRR service beginning in September.

These changes on the Montauk and Port Jefferson Branches again show the limitations of the C3 car fleet.

The SFCC service only uses one set of equipment (no more than 4 cars) to provide the extra service between
Speonk and Montauk. The SFCC schedule is strategically operated along with regular trains.

Oyster Bay Branch weekend service to be every two hours is not only due to lower ridership during the
time periods that hourly service operated - it is due to ongoing Third Track Project work between Mineola
and Floral Park. For alternate LIRR service Oyster Bay Branch riders can use the Port Washington Branch
(Albertson, Roslyn to Glen Cove segment) and Syosset (Glen Cove, Locust Valley and Oyster Bay).

The afternoon PM Peak train to Speonk mentioned is train #2742 (6:27 PM from Penn Station stopping at
Jamaica, Babylon then all stops to Speonk) which will go back to a change at Babylon service.

The two Port Jefferson Branch weekend through dual mode trains were a good option - and should return
to the schedule when Third Track Project work is further along and if equipment is available.

Two observations that I will mention from the weekend of 7/20-21 (the Urban Avenue Bridge Project) is
that Oyster Bay trains are running every two hours - a possible prelude to the proposed weekend timetable
and two "eight sets" (an "eight set" is eight C3 cars along with two DM30 locomotives that provide through
service to Penn Station from Port Jefferson and Speonk - two sets each from both branches during weekday
peak hours) are being used for the two shuttle trains (16 C3 cars) operating Hicksville-Bethpage-Babylon.

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Re: Weekend dual modes on the Port Jeff branch

Post by gamer4616 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:11 pm

The SFCC service only uses one set of equipment (no more than 4 cars) to provide the extra service between
Speonk and Montauk. The SFCC schedule is strategically operated along with regular trains.
This has been a 1 car train. Cab Car and DE Engine only.

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Re: Weekend dual modes on the Port Jeff branch

Post by MACTRAXX » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:16 pm

gamer4616 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:11 pm
The SFCC service only uses one set of equipment (no more than 4 cars) to provide extra service
between Speonk and Montauk. The SFCC schedule is strategically operated along with regular trains.
This has been a 1 car train. Cab Car and DE Engine only.
...Along with the Ronkonkoma-Greenport "Scoot" at times...
LIRR diesel trains that are this short are prime candidates to be operated with FRA-compliant DMUs...
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