GATX (GMTX) & LTEX Locomotives on lease to PAR

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GATX (GMTX) & LTEX Locomotives on lease to PAR

Post by MEC407 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:23 am

I've heard variations of this rumor from three separate sources who are unconnected with eachother: PAR may soon be acquiring some additional GP40s for the fleet. There is disagreement among the sources over whether these will be leased or purchased, but all three sources said they would be coming from GATX Locomotive Group (reporting marks GMTX and/or LLPX).
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Re: More GP40s on the way?

Post by newpylong » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:56 pm

I'll see what I can dig up.

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Re: More GP40s on the way?

Post by Highball » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:07 pm

It was recently reported from the MM & A Railfan group, that PAR has bought 5 GP-40's and will lease them to NBSR, the first two headed East are GMTX 3004 / 3005.

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Re: More GP40s on the way?

Post by Mcoov » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:11 pm

Spartan or wide-cab?

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Re: More GP40s on the way?

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Re: More GP40s on the way?

Post by jaymac » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:46 am

Never one to resist the obvious rim/cheap shot posting:
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Re: More GP40s on the way?

Post by MEC407 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:33 pm

Indeed. Not sure about the 3004, but the 3005 is an original Phase I GP40 from 1966. It's almost 46 years old. For perspective, consider this: the SD26s were about 25 years old when Guilford bought them. They were completely rebuilt in the mid-'70s to like-new condition, so you could even consider them to have been the equivalent of 10-12 years old when GTI acquired them.
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Re: More GP40s on the way?

Post by GP40MC1118 » Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:39 pm

For what its worth, both units were sent to Paducah and are now in Cincinnati on CSX. Still there
as of yesterday.

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Re: More GP40s on the way?

Post by aja252 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:30 pm

The 3004 and 3005 as of Saturday afternoon are in Selkirk.

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Re: More GP40s on the way?

Post by Ironman » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:12 pm

The are on todays Q426 on the way to Barber Station.

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Re: More GP40s on the way?

Post by BowdoinStation » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:30 pm

I take it that the dozen or so, GP40's that are on the 'deadline' are better of staying that way, and well beyond the realm of repairing ? Wasn't the 509 revived to life after a four or five year vacation on the Waterville deadline ? I know there are some GP40's that have ten years or over being out-of-service up there in Maine.

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Re: More GP40s on the way?

Post by newpylong » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:44 pm

Correct. Cheaper to lease than to repair. Then they have them for parts.

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Re: More GP40s on the way?

Post by MEC407 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 3:56 pm

It's also possible that the GP40s in the deadline have already been so heavily cannibalized (to support the rest of the fleet) that PAR no longer has enough spare parts bring six of those dead units back to operable condition. Even though many of them may have an outward appearance that looks mostly complete, it's very possible that some of them are empty or nearly empty inside.

Important items like traction motors and power assemblies are usually the first to be removed for use in other units, followed by bigger (and equally important) items such as generators, air compressors, turbos, and whole engine blocks.
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Re: More GP40s on the way?

Post by MEC407 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:07 pm

Very recent photo of 3004 and 3005:


http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=2948410


Aren't they beautiful? :wink:
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Re: More GP40s on the way?

Post by Mcoov » Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:46 pm

At least 3004 looks okay...

Has PAR purchased these, or are they leased?

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