Generally speaking, when you close every other mill you have in the US in one summer, that doesn't make the health of your company look too good. The whole point of ND branching out into the US was to create a pulp supply for their mills in Asia. But with all of the other operations closing, I would say they built more pulp mills overseas to meet the demand they were looking for. After talking with some individuals who work/worked for ND, I definitely wouldn't say they are doing great at this point. But I will say they are better than Paper-Excellence Group, which owns Bowater-Ababbei, Catalyst, and Domtar. Which the individuals running that company have had a long history of buying competitors so they can close those mills and scrap them, to keep the demand and profit for the paper they produce up. That practice is what ended up killing I believe 4 mills in a two year period in Dalhousie and Maramichi, NB as well as a few other mills on the Gaspe Peninsula in Quebec.