Buffalo and Pittsburgh / Wheeling Lake Erie Coal trains

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Buffalo and Pittsburgh / Wheeling Lake Erie Coal trains

Post by RMB357 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:22 am

Saw another northbound loaded coal train going through East Aurora yesterday with a nice set of power, an ex BNSF SD40-2, a W&LE SD402 and a B&P unit as a third. This is the second train I've caught in daylight, and it was around 90 cars. I remember reading about these months past in Railpace but I can't recall destination or the plant origin. Nice to see the traffic on the Buffalo line, hopefully for a while to.

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Re: Buffalo and Pittsburgh / Wheeling Lake Erie Coal trains

Post by Matt Langworthy » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:19 pm

IIRC the B&P, W&LE and AVR have teamed up for joint coke trains, which are loaded onto ships at the former Bethlehem site in Lackawanna.
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Re: Buffalo and Pittsburgh / Wheeling Lake Erie Coal trains

Post by SST » Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:32 pm

What time are these trains coming through?

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Re: Buffalo and Pittsburgh / Wheeling Lake Erie Coal trains

Post by lakeshoredave » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:10 am

Good question. I've seen photos of them during the day.

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Re: Buffalo and Pittsburgh / Wheeling Lake Erie Coal trains

Post by RMB357 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:55 pm

I've noticed them so far early afternoon in East Aurora

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Re: Buffalo and Pittsburgh / Wheeling Lake Erie Coal trains

Post by mmi16 » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:15 am

Matt Langworthy wrote:IIRC the B&P, W&LE and AVR have teamed up for joint coke trains, which are loaded onto ships at the former Bethlehem site in Lackawanna.
Are the coke trains getting a helper to climb Bakerstown Hill leaving Pittsburgh?
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Re: Buffalo and Pittsburgh / Wheeling Lake Erie Coal trains

Post by RS3218 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:21 pm

Hello,

I live near Franklinville, NY. When do trains operate thru there, or do the B&P trains go south at Machias Jct. thru Ellicottville and then onto Salamanca because of the tank cars on tracks at Olean?

I would like vintage photos of Machias Jct. and Franklinville Station. I have another question please: What RR operated at one time thru Sandusky, NY south of Arcade?

Thank you,
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Re: Buffalo and Pittsburgh / Wheeling Lake Erie Coal trains

Post by RMB357 » Sat May 06, 2017 9:35 pm

Hi Rich. I believe the coke train contract was lost to NS. They are off loading the trains in Sandusky. Not sure if B&P / W&LE can get them back.

The other B&P traffic cuts off at Machias and runs south to Salamanca, Dubouis, etc. The WNY&PA leases the Buffalo line in Franklinville but doesn't run up there currently unless it's for storage.

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Re: Buffalo and Pittsburgh / Wheeling Lake Erie Coal trains

Post by jones3621 » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:14 pm

I think they still have the contract as of right now, I saw a train about 3 weeks ago with WLE and BPRR power hauling about 90 NS hoppers come tearing north through Bradford heading towards Salamanca to hop on to the Buffalo line to head up Buffalo

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Re: Buffalo and Pittsburgh / Wheeling Lake Erie Coal trains

Post by roc » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:22 pm

Earlier this summer, Erie Coke shipped 80 cars of coke in 20-car blocks. The last of which moved out of town on 7/31.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=you ... 2x95FmotbM

While I’m no fan of coal as a fuel, it’s irreplaceable as a feedstock. To wit, yes, Erie Coke has managed to survive at least for the time being.

https://www.yourerie.com/news/local-new ... -decision/

Last summer, B&P delivered 300 cars of coal to Erie Coke.

An interesting aside is that Erie Coke loaded several shiploads of coke at Montfort Terminal last year, according to Boatnerd.

http://www.boatnerd.com/news/archive/12-18.htm

Unusual?

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