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General discussion of passenger rail systems not otherwise covered in the specific forums in this category, including high speed rail.

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 #702140  by drewh
 
So any opinions on where the first lines should go? I think Old Montréal connecting to downtown and running along Ste Catherine St. Then the line along Parc Ave. Though personally I think they should extend the yellow line #4 métro from Berri-UQÀM north then west under Ontario then north under Parc. There could be stations at Sherbrooke, Pine, St Joseph, Bernard, and terminate at Jean Talon to connect with the Blue line and the AMT trains. This would certainly help relieve congestion on the orange line.
 #1048974  by Myrtone
 
Could unidirectional trams be considered for Montreal? Given that their pevious system was largely unidirectional with either loops or wyes a every terminus and that Toronto retains unidirectinonal running while plaining on new Transit City lines with bidirectional LRVs, they have shown no signs of converting the legacy system to bidirectional running.
Similarly, many old tramway networks in tram savvy European countries, escpeially Eastern Europe, still retain unidirectional trams and show no sign of switching to bidirectional running. Why do these operators continue ordering more unidirectional trams and rather than converting to bidirectional running?
We discussed this before, and loop track, whether around a block or just turning loops, can be advantagous even on bidirectional tramway networks at busy termini because headways of less than a minute mean that there is not enough time for the driver to change ends. And with loops at both ends, the advantages of unidirectional trams can be considered.
By having driver controls at only one end and doors only on the right, there can be more floor area available for a greater amount of seating with all seats fixed and most facing forwards. Facilities such as wheelchair bays can be directly opposite the doors, which is not as easily acheivable on a bidirectional tram. Having doors on only the right means there is neither the possibility of the driver opening the wrong side doors nor the need for either expensive software to prevent wrong side door incidences or fences to protect passengers when this happens.
Also, depending on your taste, unidirectional trams may also have aesthetic advantges. For example, which looks better, identical number one and number two ends (as double ended trams need to have) or non-identical front and rear ends (quite common with single ended trams)? For example, do you prefer headlamps and brake lights at both ends (necessary for bidirectional running) or headlamps at the front and brake lights at the rear, as is found on unidirectional rolling stock.
 #1075953  by Bill R.
 
I've just returned from Montreal, and, while there, read a news article about a light rail proposal. After internet research, I came across these study documents:

http://www.amt.qc.ca/docs/pdf/slr/SLR_E ... ummary.pdf

http://www.amt.qc.ca/docs/pdf/slr/SLR_S ... report.pdf

One of the street maps I purchased shows the proposed extension of the Yellow Line west under Sherbrooke Street. Building on your Yellow Line LRT conversion concept, drewh, is it possible to connect the proposed Broussard / Route 10 line to the Yellow line via a new tunnel from Gare Centrale to the proposed Yellow Line McGill station?

Would a heritage streetcar operation along the rail line through the Old Port make sense? Would it make more sense if there was a connection with a new Yellow Line station built at Rue de la Commune (the waterfront)?

Aonther concept to consider is an opportunity created by the reroute of the AMT Blainville / St. Jerome commuter rail service via the Train L'est right of way and Mt. Royal tunnel. If this occured, would it be possible to extend the proposed Ave. Parc light rail line to a joint station at the new AMT Gare Athunsic or the existing AMT Gare Bois-de-Boulogne using the vacated rail right-of-way?