Conway Scenic Railroad (CSRX) discussion thread

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Re: Conway Scenic Railroad (CSRX) discussion thread

Post by John Smythe » Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:52 am

Please direct me to any part of these funding disclosures that include a limit on OOS years, etc.? Thanks.
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Re: Conway Scenic Railroad (CSRX) discussion thread

Post by NHV 669 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:59 am

There is no limit, you have to have shippers and an operator to run a line, as has been pointed out to you multiple times. There are neither in this case, there is no reason for tax dollars to be spent. How many times do we need to beat the same horse?
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Re: Conway Scenic Railroad (CSRX) discussion thread

Post by p42thedowneaster » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:47 am

b&m 1566 wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:42 am

There is no use of the horn, all crossings are flagged. I guess if they are flagged, the use of the horn is not required.
The horn is still used on these trips...just very softly (even at flagged crossings).

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Re: Conway Scenic Railroad (CSRX) discussion thread

Post by FatNoah » Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:20 am

A bit off topic, a stellar 4th of July weekend for North Conway and Mt. Washington Valley businesses.
I'll help make it on topic. My family and I took the Firecracker Express from Conway to N. Conway to enjoy the festivities. It beat driving and parking by a long shot and appeared to be a popular option since it looked like nearly every coach owned by the RR was in use.

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Re: Conway Scenic Railroad (CSRX) discussion thread

Post by John Smythe » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:42 pm

OK... I'll stop beating a dead horse. Perhaps some day after NH widens RT #16 as far as they can & it still isn't enough to relieve miles upon miles of traffic congestion, then perhaps somebody will finally figure out that they should have done something with the railroad line. That goes for The Mtn. Div. as well.

By the way... it's been a long while since a wheel report has come out. There's something very odd about the silence regarding the MEC #501 & the evaluation work that we were informed that was to take place.
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Re: Conway Scenic Railroad (CSRX) discussion thread

Post by b&m 1566 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:14 pm

The Wheel Reports went by the wayside last year, they attempted to bring it back this year because of popular demand but it looks like it has fallen by the wayside again, so I'm inclined to think we have seen the last of them.
Regarding 501 - there's nothing suspicious going, as stated before, they never got the opportunity over the winter to evaluate the engine like they had hoped and going back to last year they have repeatedly stated, "501's return to service is not guaranteed", they will not make any decisions until an assessment is done. One thing that was done, that needed to be done, before anything could be done, was purchasing the engine, so you can check that off the list.

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Re: Conway Scenic Railroad (CSRX) discussion thread

Post by p42thedowneaster » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:33 am

Since it has been shown that crossing gates are problematic along the North-South Bypass road, what would it take to disable the gates and return to flashers only? Are these signals mandated as they are? (by the FRA or NHDOT?) It seems strange to have gates on these little side streets and not on major crossings like Rte 16. Maybe the other crossings are grandfathered?

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Re: Conway Scenic Railroad (CSRX) discussion thread

Post by John Smythe » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:12 am

Problems with crossing signal circuits usually come from voltage issues / poor electrical contacts / dirty-rusty rails that need lots of shine put back onto them. Rock salt dumped all over the grade crossings in winter also cause corrosion issues. Sounds like that part of the line needs a good tune up.
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Re: Conway Scenic Railroad (CSRX) discussion thread

Post by b&m 1566 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:39 am

Problematic? I've been told there are crossing circuits but because trains operate so infrequent, all the crossings are set to manual. Another issue, is the lack of visibility for drivers coming off some of those side streets, they must pull out over the tracks to see down N/S road in either direction. If a train is coming and the circus are set, cars are in trouble if they can't quickly back up or pull out safely. If they were to ever set the crossings to activate on the circuits, I would think the state would need to address the sight line issues for vehicles coming off those side streets.

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Re: Conway Scenic Railroad (CSRX) discussion thread

Post by NHV 669 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:14 pm

I believe a good amount of their flashers on the Mountain Division are on manual, they had to flip the ones at the 302 crossing in Bretton Woods prior to bringing Rhonda Lee home. They flagged it on the initial trip to get the car.
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Post by b&m 1566 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:54 pm

Maybe I'm miss understanding what manual means then, I thought manual meant that someone had to be at the box to turn them on, a train entering the circuit does not. All the regular used crossings are activated when the train enters the circuit.

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Re: Conway Scenic Railroad (CSRX) discussion thread

Post by BandA » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:35 am

You could have the dispatcher control the gates, and have a signal block to tell the train if it was ok to proceed. Or you could have the train activate the signal with a remote control ("alexa, lower the gates at the crossing") earlier so they don't have to stop.

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Re: Conway Scenic Railroad (CSRX) discussion thread

Post by NHV 669 » Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:06 am

b&m 1566 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2019 3:54 pm
All the regular used crossings are activated when the train enters the circuit.
I misspoke, writing in haste yesterday, and edited the post to reflect your point. The valley crossings surely see plenty of use, but it is probably easier not to have the crossings west of Bartlett on all the time.
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Re: Conway Scenic Railroad (CSRX) discussion thread

Post by b&m 1566 » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:25 am

Ok I see what you mean, it's possible that the power was still off for those too, I've watched them shut the power of immediately after the last train of the season before. I once read that each crossing cost about $30 a month just to have the power on, so shutting them off in the off season is a little bit of a savings.

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Re: Conway Scenic Railroad (CSRX) discussion thread

Post by p42thedowneaster » Sat Jul 20, 2019 8:56 pm

By problematic I was referring to the apparent design flaw in having the gates so close to the roadway intersections. The fear is that when the gates come down drivers will panic and hit oncoming traffic. To my knowledge that is the reason they are not being used. Just curious if they need to have the gates or if they could get away with just having "automatic" lights like most of the other protected crossings.

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