Plymouth & Lincoln Railroad (HOBO, Winnipesaukee Scenic)

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Re: Plymouth & Lincoln Railroad (HOBO, Winnipesaukee Scenic)

Post by p42thedowneaster » Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:32 pm

I'm pretty sure the state owned locomotive situation is something thats been going on for a very very long time. I think these were originally acquired for operations of the North Stratford RR and the Lincoln line post B&M/MEC years. I believe the other two ALCos came from the Wolfeboro and Maine Coast RRs.

Deep phisophical question....
If an S3 now wears Blunt trucks (instead of her original AAR trucks) does that not make her now an S1? 1186 had AAR trucks on the Wolfeboro, but not anymore.
No complaints though, Blunt trucks are far more interesting to look at!

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Re: Plymouth & Lincoln Railroad (HOBO, Winnipesaukee Scenic)

Post by diburning » Sat Oct 01, 2016 7:21 pm

Is the Lafayette Dinner Train a Hobo operation? I'm very surprised that their website doesn't have any sort of info or history.

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Re: Plymouth & Lincoln Railroad (HOBO, Winnipesaukee Scenic)

Post by p42thedowneaster » Sat Oct 01, 2016 7:31 pm

As far as I know they are still seperate entities.

I'm not sure if this is true or still accurate...but I heard they had an interesting agreement. Since the CLDT made all the box lunches for the day trips, the Hobo provided motive power for the dinner train in return.

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Re: Plymouth & Lincoln Railroad (HOBO, Winnipesaukee Scenic)

Post by b&m 1566 » Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:40 am

I never realized the dinner train was separate from the railroad.

Does the railroad plan to run excursion trains this year for the Pumpkin Festival? It takes place 10/22. Checking the festival website, I couldn't find anything about train rides.

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Re: Plymouth & Lincoln Railroad (HOBO, Winnipesaukee Scenic)

Post by b&m 1566 » Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:49 pm

Never mind, it is on the website, there will be train rides.

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Re: Plymouth & Lincoln Railroad (HOBO, Winnipesaukee Scenic)

Post by diburning » Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:12 pm

p42thedowneaster wrote:As far as I know they are still seperate entities.

I'm not sure if this is true or still accurate...but I heard they had an interesting agreement. Since the CLDT made all the box lunches for the day trips, the Hobo provided motive power for the dinner train in return.
Does CLDT own the equipment for the train? If so, do the cars have any sort of reporting marks? Or do they not since the train isn't interchange equipment? They have an interesting combination of equipment, and I would like to know the history behind them.

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Re: Plymouth & Lincoln Railroad (HOBO, Winnipesaukee Scenic)

Post by shadyjay » Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:40 pm

http://www.cafelafayettedinnertrain.com ... 14-history" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

gives some history of the cars

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Re: Plymouth & Lincoln Railroad (HOBO, Winnipesaukee Scenic)

Post by diburning » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:35 pm

Wow, how did I miss that? Thanks!

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Re: Plymouth & Lincoln Railroad (HOBO, Winnipesaukee Scenic)

Post by b&m 1566 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:00 pm

Has anyone else noticed the striping on HOBO 1921, is incorrect? Note the narrowing of the stripes as they turn downward on the nose.
Here's a photo of the correct striping.

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Re: Plymouth & Lincoln Railroad (HOBO, Winnipesaukee Scenic)

Post by Mikejf » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:31 pm

So? That is how it came to them, correct? It was only painted that way to represent the paint jobs of the B&M, not for accuracy. 99.9% of the people that ride behind the locomotive will never notice the difference.

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Re: Plymouth & Lincoln Railroad (HOBO, Winnipesaukee Scenic)

Post by MEC407 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:49 pm

I don't think 1566 was trying to criticize anything/anyone, but merely asking if anyone else had noticed.

I hadn't noticed until now.

I'm wondering if the T painted that unit in-house or if the paint job was contracted out. (Their GP40 and their GP18 were painted by Guilford, for example.)

In fairness to whoever painted it, B&M did some less-than-perfect paint jobs back in the day, and a few that were downright sloppy. They also did some that were excellent. There's a lot of variability depending on the time period and depending on the management at any given time.
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Re: Plymouth & Lincoln Railroad (HOBO, Winnipesaukee Scenic)

Post by b&m 1566 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:11 pm

You are correct, 407.

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Re: Plymouth & Lincoln Railroad (HOBO, Winnipesaukee Scenic)

Post by Mikejf » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:37 pm

I doubt the T had the exact measurements like the guys in Waterville do.

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Re: Plymouth & Lincoln Railroad (HOBO, Winnipesaukee Scenic)

Post by bm1838 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:17 pm

When the 77 was painted, personnel came down from Waterville and took paint samples of the maroon and gold and stripe measurements off the 573 in North Conway. The 77 and 573 should both be close matches.

Cory

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Re: Plymouth & Lincoln Railroad (HOBO, Winnipesaukee Scenic)

Post by b&m 1566 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:37 pm

The caption of this picture says that 1921 is owned by the Budd RDC Foundation. I knew it was privately owned and leased to the Plymouth & Lincoln but until now, I didn't know who owned it. A very quick google search turned up nothing on the Budd RDC Foundation and I've never heard of it. Does anyone have more information on them? Is it a local foundation, national?

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